I enjoy P&R for the thoughtful and reasonable discussion, and tend to engage less when it is polluted with crazy herpaderp. When people go crazy in P&R, it is less fun and much less intelligent, but it turns out the folks who cause that eventually get themselves banned or just get burnt out on it. It is generally a mature place for discussion.
On the other hand, the Woodshed is a place for immaturity , which has its place (I like the shed, too), but the shed and P&R should definitely be kept separate. To Vector's point, yeah maybe additional rules can be set in place for P&R even under the Woodshed umbrella, but would it be worth it? I would see such a move dragging down the (already tenuous) discourse of the P&R conversations and actually make the jobs harder for the mods, enforcing additional sub-rules and such.
I think the more reasonable approach is to act civilized in P&R, and when you need a break from that, there are places to vent in the shed.
As far as
@VectorVictor goes, I was confused by the venting in the other thread about the warnings on moderation and such. I like most of VectorVictor's posts. You can even say that I am a Vector fan. But when I take a quick glance at the Offending Posts thread, it seems that Vector just needs to pull his punches a little bit when he goes on the attack. Tweak the wording ever so slightly, be a bit more subtle. The Offending Posts seemed to be going after morons who deserved it, but he got dinged for the personal attack.
I think we can have P&R discussions without getting overly riled up. When people ruin it for others, their fate is eventually sealed. Sometimes it just takes some patience and subtlety. I think we can all learn to be like Fonzie.
