As far as who I would rather have seen as a coach, Mike Stoops, Chow, Kiffin (even though he is old), Meyer, Spurrier, Weis, Price, Shula, Franchionne (sp?) even Pelini or Gill (long shots) would have been better. There are a ton of great coaches out there, both proven HCs and up-and-coming assistants. In my honest opinion, this is the worst HC/staff in the Big 12 (one of the worst in the nation), the previous staff was a much, much better coaching staff.
Are you trying to be funny? Callahan is 10-9 right now and lets assume he wins 2 of the last 3 games. That puts him at 12-10 (13-10 if you consider a bowl win).
Mike Stoops is 2-6 this year and will end up 3-8 after losing his next 2 of 3 against UCLA, and Arizona St and probably beating 1-7 Washington. That's exactly his same record last year. How is a 6-16 record better then a 12-10 record? Ironically, 2 of his 3 wins this year will be against the same 2 teams he beat last year (Northern Arizona DIV-AA team, Washington) with Oregon St and Arizona St flip flopping this year and last year. In fact, Arizona is at the same NCAA statistical ranking this year as it was last year, meaning they haven't even shown improvements and will miss a bowl game for a second consecutive year. Being a good assistant at Oklahoma doesn't make you a good head coach. Yeah, great hire that would be :dumdum
I won't disagree with Chow or Kiffen because i already said those 2 guys would make me wet myself if we did get them, but look at the negative in the Kiffen Hire. Pederson isn't going to hire Kiffen merly b/c he's only a couple of years away from retirement (he's 64 at the moment) and you agree that he is to old as well. Kids wants young guys to click with like Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops, Pete Carroll, Mike Shula, etc
Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier are not a realistic choices because both have said they were not interested in the NU position to begin with several times. You said we were promised a wow hire and no matter how much money you threw at them, they would have never come here. I believe chuckd was implying who people think is a wow coach and i believe he was probably referring to guys we could get realistically. Maybe i am reading to much into his question, maybe not.
Chuckd can shed some light on what he was trying to ask in his post
Charlie Weis You know for a FACT NU doesn't have the money to throw at Wiess. NU has some good boosters, but nothing like Notre Dame and Texas. Notre Dame also has a TV deal to fund their operation and when they get to a BCS bowl game, they don't have to split it with anyone. And by the way, you said being a good NFL coach doesn't mean you are a good college football coach. Just b/c Wiess is 5-2, then all of a sudden you include him in your list. I think you threw that in more for a bias opinion then actually giving it some thought or you using a double standard here?
He built TCU into a winner. That's better than anything on billy c's resume
Dennis Franchione? B/c he took TCU and turned them into a respectable program and won a WAC title his third year before he bolted? Since when is winning a WAC title considered an accomplishment. Have you even looked to see what his record was at TCU his first 2 years? He was 15-9. Did you even look to see what teams play in the WAC? Let me help you out. San Jose St, New Mexico St, Utah St, Idaho, Hawaii, Nevada, LA Tech, Boise St, and Fresno St. Heck even Frank Solich destroyed those teams. In Solich's era, he played Utah St (2002 &2003), TCU (2001), San Jose St (2000), La Tech (1998) and outscored all 4 of those teams 201-67. At Alabama, he went 17-8 and never won a SEC title. At Texas A&M he went 11-13 his first 2 years and is currently 5-3 and won't win a Big12 title either. Yeah, another great hire who hasn't shown anything to be proud of on a resume
I guess taking a team to a Superbowl is less impressive then winning a WAC TITLE
Shula? He is 10-15 his first 2 years after going 4-9 and 6-6. The only reason you mentioned him was b/c he is undefeated this year. It took him 3 years to go undefeated and the season isn't over year. If he was 4-4 at this point, we wouldn't be having this discussion
Pelini or Gill? Now i know you are being sarcastic
bigredhusker427 said:I agree that the previous staff was great. If we had them back and had the recruiting we have now, we would be AWESOME
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
NU fan in Denver said:10 Wins means a bowl game. It means beating an OSU team, ISU team, Penn St. team and CU team that beat you the year before.
So you would rather go to a bowl game by winning 7 of 10 games against teams that never went to a bowl game that year? Exactly how does that show we are a good team? ISU was 2-10, Penn St was 3-9 and CU was 5-6. Those teams we beat were not the same caliber teams from the year before. If it helps you sleep at night knowing you beat some pathetic teams that year, go for it.
Formerfan said:Im not saying that it was a NC caliber season, but beating those teams is much better than losing to them, no???
Much better for fans to comfort themselves like you have done by continuing to refer to that particular season. One day (god i hope) you will actually look at that season and see that those wins were a mirage. They were a illusion. The Solich regime was trying to convince us that there was improvement but KSU, Texas and Missouri proved there wasn't since 2002. Some people can see that FACT, some people like yourself continue to buy into that illusion