Insurrection fallout

Archy1221 said:
How were “these folks” (whoever you are speaking of) almost able to overthrow an election?   
 

And I don’t remember this Dear Leader person you always speak of being on the ballot?  Write in candidate?  Only in some states?  
 

Our Democracy was never at risk during this election of being overthrown, demolished, destroyed, or whatever other scary adjective one wants to input.  
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Archy1221 said:
How were “these folks” (whoever you are speaking of) almost able to overthrow an election?   
 

And I don’t remember this Dear Leader person you always speak of being on the ballot?  Write in candidate?  Only in some states?  
 

Our Democracy was never at risk during this election of being overthrown, demolished, destroyed, or whatever other scary adjective one wants to input.  
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Pretty much what I would expect from a Republican that supports Trump.  Downplay all criticisms.  Nothing to see here......look over there........

The only reason our Democracy is going to survive through this is because there were actually people who cared about it at the state levels of the elections and our courts that wouldn't listen to Dear Leader.  

If they had, we would be done.

 
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BigRedBuster said:
Pretty much what I would expect from a Republican that supports Trump.  Downplay all criticisms.  Nothing to see here......look over there........

The only reason our Democracy is going to survive through this is because there were actually people who cared about it at the state levels of the elections and our courts that wouldn't listen to Dear Leader.  

If they had, we would be done.
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So that’s two people now who couldn’t, or wouldn’t answer the question and just came up with snark.  Another type of answer I was expecting. 

 
Archy1221 said:
Pretty much the response i thought I would get
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Actually the response was perfect. The most perfect response ever.  There's never been a more perfect response.  :)

Trump's propaganda is directly out of the playbook of despots the world over.  Gaslight the validity of the press, scientists, professionals within the government.  Employ demagoguery.  Question the legitimacy of free elections.  Attempt to or full-on suppress the vote.  Fear monger. Vilify anyone who doesn't toe the line.  Peddle racism.  Dog whistle extremist followers.  What's so difficult to see here?

Remember his threat to stay in office for a third term? That he needed a do-over because he was wronged by the press?  If he said it, he's thinking it.  Thought becomes action.  We saw this come to fruition in 1/6.

Throw in that he's a confirmed malignant narcissist and it's baffling these "folks" are either naive enough, willfully ignorant enough, or duplicitous enough that they'd actually vote for a text book wannabe tyrant.  The election was close.  Had Trump had another four years to continue his assault on democracy, no doubt the ultimate outcome would be in serious jeopardy.

I hope I'm wrong.  I also hope, you hope you're right.

 
Scarlet said:
What's so difficult to see here?
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I can't see any of this!!!

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Some capital police being suspended due to possible role in the riots

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/18/politics/capitol-police-officers-suspended/index.html


Six US Capitol Police officers have been suspended with pay, and 29 others have been placed under investigation, for their actions in the January 6 riot, a department spokesman said Thursday.
"The investigation into the January 6 attack remains under investigation," department spokesman John Stolnis told CNN. "Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman has directed that any member of her department whose behavior is not in keeping with the Department's Rules of Conduct will face appropriate discipline."
CNN reported in January that the USCP had placed at least 10 officers under investigation, and two others had been suspended.
One of the suspended officers took a selfie with someone who was part of the mob that overtook the Capitol, according to Rep. Tim Ryan, a Democrat from Ohio. Another wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and started directing people around the building, Ryan said.
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This is funny.  The guy Pelosi taps as in charge of the security review, promoted a green army to the LA state Capitol.   Is he “inciting”. Will any future violence in the name of “green” be because of him.   Obviously not and shouldn’t, but shows the lefts hypocrisy. 
 


 
When should Facebook and Google receive the same type of scrutiny as Parler and serve the same type of social penalties as Parler given that it had a bigger impact on the organization of riots of Jan 6th than Parler 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/02/07/sheryl-sandberg-downplayed-facebooks-role-in-the-capitol-hill-siege-justice-department-files-tell-a-very-different-story/?sh=7405119810b3

Forbes reviewed data from the Program on Extremism at the George Washington University, which has collated a list of more than 200 charging documents filed in relation to the siege. In total, the charging documents refer to 223 individuals in the Capitol Hill riot investigation. Of those documents, 73 reference Facebook. That’s far more references than other social networks. YouTube was the second most-referenced on 24. Instagram, a Facebook-owned company, was next on 20. Parler, the app that pledged protection for free speech rights and garnered a large far-right userbase, was mentioned in just eight.

 
GOP Sen Ron Johnson, Wisc, defends the Jan 6 protestors. 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ron-johnson-capitol-riot-193134501.html

During a Tuesday hearing about the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, most senators used their time to question the police’s preparation and response to violent rioters, but not Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).

Johnson used his time to read a firsthand account of the riot, in which the author ― J. Michael Waller, a right-wing security analyst who was protesting with the crowd ― blamed “provocateurs” and Capitol Police for the attacks on the Capitol.

“Not one appeared angry or incited to riot,” Johnson said Tuesday, reading from Waller’s account of the protesters. “Many of the marchers were families with small children; many were elderly, overweight, or just plain tired or frail — traits not typically attributed to the riot-prone.”

Johnson continued reading from the account that “many wore pro-police shirts or carried pro-police ‘Back the Blue’ flags.”

The piece, which appeared on the far-right website The Federalist on Jan. 14, is largely detached from reality. It incorrectly blames the police for escalating tensions (Reminder: Police largely stood down to the violent mob and allowed them to take the Capitol.) and it falsely points the finger toward antifa demonstrators for much of the violence. (To date, there is no evidence that antifa groups were part of the attack. Videos at every layer of the breach show that it was Trump supporters who instigated the violence, and Trump-loving rioters have taken issue with people claiming it was antifa and not them who stormed the Capitol.)

But none of those facts could deter Johnson from praising the Federalist article and suggesting that senators and witnesses at the hearing read the account. In fact, Johnson spent more than five and a half minutes of his seven and a half minutes of question time reading from or talking about a piece that gets plenty wrong.
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