Insurrection fallout

Guy Chamberlin said:
I honestly believe a majority of J6 participants were legitimate angry protestors who fell easy prey to an organized minority with a more advanced agenda. There was obviously a lot of mob mentality at work; most folks inside the Capitol looked more giddy than violent, like they couldn't believe the whole thing was happening. Many weren't bright to begin with and no doubt figured the "leaders" who were literally leading them into the Capitol had an end game in mind. Meanwhile, enjoy the anarchy, take pictures in Nancy Pelosi's office, s#!t on the floor if you gotta pinch one -- you are in the midst of something truly historic!

When you envision Donald Trump - your President - ready to sweep in on your heels, take over the Senate Chamber, and reclaim the Presidency,  you probably do convince yourself you're on the right side of law and order. 

So of course it's nuanced. And I think a prosecution strategy that takes into account the difference between dimwitted cattle and the people who happily position themselves as violence provoking leaders is appropriate. 
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That is a really good point.  I am sure a lot of them got "swept up" in the moment but that doesn't excuse them from punishment.  Maybe it makes it less harsh though?  

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Here's a fun game: imagine if Donald Trump convinced enough of the U.S. military that election integrity had been breached, declared martial law, surrounded himself with loyalists and physically refused to leave office?

Would you join a protest? Surround the White House? Would you breach the grounds if suddenly the gates to the White House were toppled? Would you go Mussolini or Ceaușescu on Trump's a$$, or stop the people attempting to do so? Would you wait for the nation's system of check and balances to reassert itself? 

This happens in other countries, but apparently it's a scenario Donald Trump had entertained. 
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I would like to think that I'd be brave enough to protest in that scenario.  But I'd also be aware that the likelihood of being killed or severely beaten would be a possibility.  These "protesters" were on the wrong side of the Constitution.  Whether they truly believed in what they were doing or not, their attempts fell flat.  They should be treated like traitors.  Sucks to suck!

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
This is why a Trump coup could be successful. 
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I don't know why people don't take this seriously, other than they think somehow America is just so grand it could never happen here. As for me I would hide (in my house).

Scarlet said:
Rough day for these fascists.  They all seem to be full of fake remorse at sentencing.
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Are these all federal, i.e. Trump frees them all on day 1 and appoints them to leadership roles in his government?

 
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My rightwing step-father-in-law just emailed me the Epoch Times story about how poorly the J6 prisoners are being treated in prison. Apparently there's one really mean guard who yells at them a lot, and forces them to wear masks when being transported. 

The sudden concern for prison conditions is heartening, though. I'm sure it extends to criminals who did far worse than break into the Capitol intent on overthrowing the Constitutional transfer of power, like those colored rioters who stole flat screens from Target. 

 
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