Martinez v. Armstrong

Armstrong was 6/18 for 43 yards and 3 INT's.

RKIII was 10/13 for for 141 and a TD.

Don't know how you can look at that and come to the conclusion that the WR's are the reason the offense struggled today.

 
Prior to this year he couldnt have been confident playing a healthy backup over a banged up Martinez. The smart move was play him against UCLA but by the 4th it should have been clear to bench him in order to heal him for conference play. I hope he gets back for NW or at latest @ Michigan.

 
There it is - quote from Beck today that said there is a misconception about the offense since UCLA. The staff planned to pare down the offense regardless of who was at QB.

Also clarified saying the playbook is still the same, the difference is how much of it they work on each week. They try to work 20 plays to perfection each week so they can just get out there and play on game day.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
After the main throng of reporters had left Beck, the OC said he had intended to pare down the offense in the wake of the UCLA game (a 41-21 loss) regardless of Martinez’s health — because he thought Martinez would play against South Dakota State.
“I knew he was hurting after UCLA, but by Wednesday I figured he’d be practicing and we’d get him back,” Beck said. “The plan to pare it down was the plan to pare it down. It just so happens Tommy took over. The plays we ran probably would have been the same with Taylor.”
OWH Article

 
I'm starting to buy into Mr. Accountablility's theory that Taylor has been benched permanently , and the walking boot is to save face.
I'm not sure Bo is smart enough to come up with something like this though.

Plus, Bo likes to win football games. That's a good football team out there. They just need to execute, and the rest is all fixable.
I was kidding, but it's an interesting take. And I don't think Accountability came out and said it like that, but it was implied a couple times.

I do think it's telling that Bo insists he won't play Taylor until he's 100%. It tells us that he doesn't think a 95% Martinez is a better option than Tommy Armstrong, and it's interesting to note Armstrong is still dealing with his knee issue.

Bo has never had much of a problem playing an injured Martinez before. You can't tell me Taylor was 100% through the first 3 games. I think the timing of his decision is interesting. Just in time for a 6 week lull in the schedule to break in a new QB.
I believe the turf toe injury. But prior to that coming to surface, I thought he got injured during the WYO game when he got body slammed and came up clutching his collar bone area. Could be a combo of injuries, soreness and pain. Maybe they knew he was hurting going into the UCLA game, but did not know to what extent. They needed Taylor and he wanted to play against them. I don't think they relay an upper body bruise/injury because defenses would be instructed to hit him hard. And against UCLA, he did his best to run out of bounds as much as possible when he did run. But that's just my speculation conspiracy theory : ) Because he did throw some good passes too.

 
Did you guys think the WRs had a worse game today than they typically have? They drop passes from Taylor, too. I wouldn't pin this poor passing performance on the WRs.
Drop passes happen sometimes with every team in every game. So do misthrows.

We saw some bad drops today, but we also saw some overthrows from TA and a few flat out miscommunications. So it's a bit of everything, but undoubtedly TA had a poor outing.

Got to like his resiliency though. Not once did he look down or lost out there, and he came back from either his 2nd or 3rd pick to make a great move in the pocket and throw a perfect ball down the field....which unfortunately was dropped.

 
I don't know if people are trying to really diminish TA. I've loved what I've seen from TA, but the truth of the matter is he's played two very bad defenses and hasn't really been tested. We know what we've got with TM in crunch time, and for his mistakes, this guy piloted several comebacks last year and everything we hear from the team is that TM is viewed as their leader.

And in an observation from Sam McKewon, he said TA runs the offense a lot to his right side, whether that's making big plays on the right side of the field, optioning to the right side of the field, etc. He also pointed out there were a couple of big plays that, due to experience, TM would have been more likely to make over TA.

Like I said, I see very few people diminishing what TA is doing. What I think you've got is a lot of skeptical people that want to see the team do well but, again, are skeptical of TA until he proves himself against a worthy opponent. And I don't think that's being too over-the-top or asking too much of the guy. He came to Nebraska to play, and win, big games. That's ultimately how every player gets judged, fair or not. So, all I say is, lets just temper what we believe he can or can't do until he actually does or doesn't do it.

 
It doesnt matter if you are playing against SDSU, Illinois, Lincoln High SChool or on air- when it comes to evaluating Fundamentals and base Execution

Execution and Fundamentals are Execution and Fundamentals- TAs Execution and Fundamentals are very sound

Smooth operator

 
Not enough loft on his deep balls? Where does this come from? Kriest, the damn things are rainbows as it is. I guess I just dont understand how frickin high the guy is supposed to put it.

As far as the WR's goes, I wouldnt say the whole group, but Enunwa dropped to long td passes as well as a slant that ended up as one of the picks.. 3 plays that I would expect Quincy moreso than ANYONE to make. So, yes, I am willing so say that Quincy struggled some today.

Damn, I'm really having a hard time finding negatives in this win for the first road game.

 
Through two gamrs yes hes been smooth. Get him in the Big House or even @ Purdue and I think we see more of what he needs to learn/work on. Its different in a hostile/unffamiliar environment. This guy hasnt even been to an away game as a benchwarmer. If he plays @Purdue and lights it up just as well I'll be impressed but we must remember it is just Purdue.

 
So....who still want TA over Magic? I believe Armstrong has more INTs than Martinez. Gimme Taylor back. Experience please.
Armstrong does have more INTs this season than Martinez, from this game alone. I still think Armstrong may have a better pocket presence and doesn't seem to fumble on contact. It may have been because of his injury, but the Wyoming and UCLA games did not look like we had a 4 year starter behind center.

 
this game has not swayed my opinion of armstrong. i hope t-mart comes back soon and is as good as ever. but if he cannot, i am still confident in our backups to give us a pretty good season if our defense continues to progress as they have the past couple of weeks.

 
Dev

I DONT care if I have support from others. Truth and facts are facts

Pooled ignorance doesnt matter one iota to me

Im done responding to those who don't have a clue- or the creepy stalkers. Im very happily married, go bark up another tree

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top