Media Bias

Archy1221 said:
Yes your post was.   I’m one of the people on here who reads links that people post as I routinely point out the nuance to the articles.  So yes, it’s laughable by you to try and say I don’t want additional information after I point out to you that succeeding in helping the illegal get away is different than attempting to help the illegal get away.   Though both are the same basic crime.   A crime that it seems the judge has committed absent any new information coming out.   
 

What people are arguing now isn’t that she did what she did, but trying to argue helping someone try and evade capture is really no biggie and we should all just look away.   But then again, a few days ago you yourself said you either believe in law and order or you don’t (or something to that affect if it wasn’t the exact wording) 
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I’m not arguing that she, the judge, did nothing wrong. Sounds like she probably did intend to help him circumvent ICE capture and she should be held accountable for that.

What bothers me about this deal is that ICE struggled to arrest him when it should’ve been dirt simple. It’s as if the spectacle of the story was actually the point moreso than making a simple arrest. They went out of their way to make the judge’s action appear more egregious. I don’t want judges actively helping illegal criminals avoid capture. That’s not good. But WTF is wrong with ICE? They can’t make a simple arrest. Apparently they don’t want to act in daylight with the guy’s attorney present. They throw flashbangs in a crowded restaurant, wear masks, don’t identify themselves, often they act outside their legal authority, don’t provide due process, basically kidnap people and ship them off to foreign prisons and to the wrong countries. I mean really, it’s pretty f#&%ed up what they’ve been doing and how they’ve been acting. Sorry but I feel that is a much more dire problem in this country than if a few illegals evade capture.

Have you heard the theory that it’s better that 10 murderers go free than 1 innocent be wrongly convicted. Well, right now, it appears 10 innocents are suffering for every 1 baddie they apprehend. The whole deal is basically uncontrolled vigilantes run amuck. It would be great if every one they captured and deported was actually the criminal element they pretend they are but their batting average sucks a$$.

 
JJ Husker said:
I’m not arguing that she, the judge, did nothing wrong. Sounds like she probably did intend to help him circumvent ICE capture and she should be held accountable for that
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Ok, yet you seem to have a problem with me posting about it.   I can’t control if ICE did a bang up job in capturing the dude or if they did a s#!tty job.   She dis try to help him avoid ICE.   If the ICE personnel need additional training on capturing a fleeing suspect that’s fine.  

 
Archy1221 said:
Ok, yet you seem to have a problem with me posting about it.   I can’t control if ICE did a bang up job in capturing the dude or if they did a s#!tty job.   She dis try to help him avoid ICE.   If the ICE personnel need additional training on capturing a fleeing suspect that’s fine.  
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I guess my point is, if ICE would’ve just tapped the guy on the shoulder, as he was exiting the courtroom, and said hey, buddy, you’re under arrest or being detained or whatever the hell, this whole thing is a non-issue. So he walked out door A instead of door B…both lead to the hallway where he had to exit either way.
 

It’s all just performative bulls#!t to rile up the base and play in the news. The story shouldn’t be “rogue liberal judge…”, it should be “inept politically motivated and news cycle driven agents botch arrest and whine about judge”.

 
@JJ Husker  So, let me get this straight.  

The judge let the guy leave out a side door.  The ICE agents were all around and actually saw him and knew where he was.  They didn't arrest him right away. He obviously spent time walking around the court house until he left.  THEN they arrested him.

So......how was what door he went out supposed to prevent him from being arrested?

 
JJ Husker said:
I guess my point is, if ICE would’ve just tapped the guy on the shoulder, as he was exiting the courtroom, and said hey, buddy, you’re under arrest or being detained or whatever the hell, this whole thing is a non-issue. So he walked out door A instead of door B…both lead to the hallway where he had to exit either way.
 

It’s all just performative bulls#!t to rile up the base and play in the news. The story shouldn’t be “rogue liberal judge…”, it should be “inept politically motivated and news cycle driven agents botch arrest and whine about judge”.
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Ehhh, story is still “Liberal Judge has a hissy fit about ICE and tries her best to prevent them from doing their job.  People whine about judge getting in trouble and side with criminal illegal”.  News at 11:00

 
BigRedBuster said:
Your outrage would make sense if she allowed him to leave out a side door that lead to a private stair case that ICE couldn't see and he snuck out the back.

But....that's not what it sounds like happened.
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Outrage, performative outrage to be precise, is the point.

And yes, what I saw on the surveillance camera compilation is the defendant and his lawyer calmly walking down a couple hallways and getting on an elevator. Oh, and they happened to be followed about 15’ back by one agent and also walked past two seated agents on their  way to the elevator. And, IIRC, the following agent got on the elevator with them….yet somehow that dastardly tricky judge prevented him from being arrested before he got outside the building and onto the street.

If Dugan intended to help him avoid ICE, I don’t have a problem with her being charged. But WTF.

 
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BigRedBuster said:
Your outrage would make sense if she allowed him to leave out a side door that lead to a private stair case that ICE couldn't see and he snuck out the back.

But....that's not what it sounds like happened.
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Outrage?🙄  as in posting and discussing.

why again would she handle this criminal  different than than the others??   Only because ICE was there! 

 
JJ Husker said:
Outrage, performative outrage to be precise, is the point.

And yes, what I saw on the surveillance camera compilation is the defendant and his lawyer calmly walking down a couple hallways and getting on an elevator. Oh, and they happened to be followed about 15’ back by one agent and also walked past two seated agents on their  way to the elevator. And, IIRC, the following agent got on the elevator with them….yet somehow that dastardly tricky judge prevented him from being arrested before he got outside the building and onto the street.

If Dugan intended to help him avoid ICE, I don’t have a problem with her being charged. But WTF.
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Why did the criminal walk out a different way than what is standard?  
 

performative outrage? 🙄  who knew posting on Huskerboard was now performative outrage 🤣

 
BigRedBuster said:
Your outrage would make sense if she allowed him to leave out a side door that lead to a private stair case that ICE couldn't see and he snuck out the back.

But....that's not what it sounds like happened.
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It's all the GOP defenders have left at this point: talk about anything other than the absolute s#!tshow their party and their votes are responsible for.

 
Archy1221 said:
Why did the criminal walk out a different way than what is standard?  
 

performative outrage? 🙄  who knew posting on Huskerboard was now performative outrage 🤣
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TBH, the performative outrage comment was not aimed at you. It was intended for the administration and MAGAland. It’s what they do with everything when they want to whip people up into a froth over something.

It seems to be working just as intended.

 
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