Ratt Mhule
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Media Bias
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Guy Chamberlin
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Down the middle? I don't even know what that looks like anymore.
But you would be hard pressed to find a news source more factually accurate or respectful of the partisan interviewees they include on every segment than PBS. Rather than reach for the laughy emoji, feel free to give me an example of down the middle you could live with.
If being critical of Donald Trump gets you kicked out of the down-the-middle club, there's no middle to be had. The responsibility for Donald Trump and MAGA's bad press comes from everything they say and do. The bias against Trump is because he's a habitual liar and incompetent a$$h@!e. Criminal and a$$h@!e Democrats aren't protected, either, but nobody and I mean nobody has been the nonstop trainwreck Trump has been.
Are reporters really supposed to pretend the emperor has no clothes?
You sure can't blame MAGA for wanting to kill PBS. The reason it's public in the first place is because small markets typically can't afford much in news gathering, so it functions a bit like the local library -- also a dangerous repository of thoughtful knowledge. A low-budget for-profit AM station might run a fire-breathing right winger across the rural landscape, and that's been working like gangbusters for them.
But you would be hard pressed to find a news source more factually accurate or respectful of the partisan interviewees they include on every segment than PBS. Rather than reach for the laughy emoji, feel free to give me an example of down the middle you could live with.
If being critical of Donald Trump gets you kicked out of the down-the-middle club, there's no middle to be had. The responsibility for Donald Trump and MAGA's bad press comes from everything they say and do. The bias against Trump is because he's a habitual liar and incompetent a$$h@!e. Criminal and a$$h@!e Democrats aren't protected, either, but nobody and I mean nobody has been the nonstop trainwreck Trump has been.
Are reporters really supposed to pretend the emperor has no clothes?
You sure can't blame MAGA for wanting to kill PBS. The reason it's public in the first place is because small markets typically can't afford much in news gathering, so it functions a bit like the local library -- also a dangerous repository of thoughtful knowledge. A low-budget for-profit AM station might run a fire-breathing right winger across the rural landscape, and that's been working like gangbusters for them.
Guy Chamberlin
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Honestly, he had every right to flip that back on Kaitlan, having already given his answer regarding Signal Gate and wanting to discuss VA issues more pertinent than this hot button scandal. I see no reason why an interview subject can't ask questions of their interrogator.
I'd have to research the Florida case, but I'm pretty sure the CNN is Hostile to Veterans comeback he had in his back pocket doesn't align with his singular gotcha, and the growing animosity among veterans for the Trump administration is not a liberal media creation but another consequence of its actions.
Funny you should say that. It’s a tad bit mire than just about personal tweets. Actually it’s a lot more if we want to be honest
Ratt Mhule
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Free speech gives them protection against govt coming after them. If they break policy, which Im pretty sure this is policy, then they can be let go by the district. And my wife is a public school counselor. She would never push her beliefs, religion or political affiliation on a student.
I can help a little…for NPR imagine a piece of paper with a drawing of a tall vertical line way way way to left side of that paper and then a drawing of a vertical line way way to the right side on the paper. Down the middle for NPR and the lefties here would juuuuuust a tad bit right of that tall vertical line on the left side of the paper.
Wall Street Journal (it’s shaded a tad to the right I admit).
For TV….if someone could make a news channel where Brett Baier is as far right as someone goes and Jake Tapper/Wolf Blitzer is as far left as someone goes during their respective shows, that would present a network full of good balance without going off the deep end on either side.
No. But wouldn’t it be nice if reporters (real ones, not the evening commentators) would stop embellishing the stories that the emperor had no clothes on.
A recent example is the SignalGate story. Goldberg exposed the Administration and rightfully made them look silly. But did he need to embellish and try to claim “War plans” were released. As if we were at war with someone. Sound silly to you all I’m sure for me to say, but that’s just a small example of what constantly happens and it gives Trump and his folks an out to to harp on the false embellishments. Add that to numerous “If true” stories that end up not being true.
Report the naked emperor and not the story you wished were true of the naked emperor starting www3 while watching porn with hookers in Russia while they pee on him.
I agree with you that free speech comes with strings attached and hence I then agree with you when you say keep government out of private companies AND news agencies that don’t want to abide by the strings attached of non biased reporting.
Guy Chamberlin
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I meant show me the NPR news report that is factually inaccurate or omits one side of story. Middle of the road news gathering collects viewpoints from multiple sides and then fact checks each one. Some viewpoints match up better with the facts than others. It's not a matter of presenting two extremes then walking away.
Are stories about people working to help the less-privileged Lefty? NPR does a lot of that. Just occurred to me that might piss people off. Reuters and AP were always considered middle of the road, but became lamestream lackeys by Trump's decree.
I've always cited the Wall Street Journal myself. Historically leans right -- at least in catering to the business class -- but I don't doubt the accuracy of their reporting. They are the adults in the room, seasoned journalists who know how the sausage is made. For that reason I could pull up dozens of Wall Street Journal articles that a Trump supporter would label as leftist propaganda.
Guy Chamberlin
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When the story broke, GOP spin doctors went into a room to throw stuff at the wall to see what might stick. Somebody came up with "it wasn't a WAR plan, it was an ATTACK plan!" as if that would put the ball back in the Trump-haters court. And guys like you just run with it.
We've been at this a long time, Archy. Do you honestly think it's the embellishment of the media that makes Donald Trump an embarrassment to the civilized world, or do his 100% unfiltered actions and utterances do the trick all by themselves?
I have no doubt you are correct here. I would venture to say you will way more than just “a Trump supporter”
On the flip side, we literally have a poster here that makes posts with a straight face saying the media orgs like cnn,msnbc, wapo, NYT were in the tank for DJT last election.
Guy Chamberlin
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Well I missed that post. Makes no sense to me. Did this person suggest that Trump was good for business, whether you liked him or not? Or that big media will always be in the tank for big business, to which it belongs? That's a flawed take, if not quite the flip side.
Although having the owners of the WaPo and LA Times pull their paper's Harris endorsement gave off quite a chill.