Member what Oregon State fans told us when Riley was hired?

luckyduck said:
Haha, I probably would have disagreed with you at the time, because I wanted for us to be good so bad.  

I'm really curious what Perlman said.
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Hold up. I still have it.

Forwarded it again after the NIU loss. Eichorst was fired two days later. I will take credit. I got a reply from Bounds that was more encouraging than perlmans two years ago.

 
luckyduck said:
Haha, I probably would have disagreed with you at the time, because I wanted for us to be good so bad.  

I'm really curious what Perlman said.
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The original email on this chain was sent 11/1/15. This was not the right coach to fit Nebraska's culture and expectations at that time. This is not the right coach to fit Nebraska's Culture or expectations at this time. I wish I had been wrong. Hire Scott Frost and let the program heal before it goes any further towards obscurity. 9/16/2017



























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[SIZE=12pt]I understand.  You wouldn’t write unless you cared.  But hope you will consider this:[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12pt]You don’t want to give Riley a few years to recruit?  Well, consider how this will look when we recruit a replacement.   Anyone want to be football coach where you will have half a season to prove yourself and you will have to play with the players the former coaches left.  And, oh by the way, it might be hard to recruit any new players because Nebraska doesn’t give you a chance if you are not immediately successful so players can’t count on you being around if they come here.  And don’t try to use excuse of injuries to your top players or that the former coaches didn’t recruit very well.   Won’t work.   Can’t wait to see who we would hire under those circumstances.  In such circumstances I hope we would get lucky but I’m skeptical.[/SIZE]
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The original email on this chain was sent 11/1/15. This was not the right coach to fit Nebraska's culture and expectations at that time. This is not the right coach to fit Nebraska's Culture or expectations at this time. I wish I had been wrong. Hire Scott Frost and let the program heal before it goes any further towards obscurity. 9/16/2017










 















Shawn Eichorst <seichorst@huskers.com>;
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[SIZE=12pt]I understand.  You wouldn’t write unless you cared.  But hope you will consider this:[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12pt]You don’t want to give Riley a few years to recruit?  Well, consider how this will look when we recruit a replacement.   Anyone want to be football coach where you will have half a season to prove yourself and you will have to play with the players the former coaches left.  And, oh by the way, it might be hard to recruit any new players because Nebraska doesn’t give you a chance if you are not immediately successful so players can’t count on you being around if they come here.  And don’t try to use excuse of injuries to your top players or that the former coaches didn’t recruit very well.   Won’t work.   Can’t wait to see who we would hire under those circumstances.  In such circumstances I hope we would get lucky but I’m skeptical.[/SIZE]
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Harvey Perlman, Chancellor at a major University, uses a period to punctuate a question?!

I give up.

 
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Redreign22 said:
I pissed him off. I have a .edu email for life. So he was sure to get it and open it. Im sure most fan email was getting trashed.
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Having a .edu email address isn't anything special. I could register a .edu domain without being affiliated with any sort of educational institution.

I'm skeptical, as many will be, that you're not just full of s#!t. His response doesn't sound like an email from a chancellor. It sounds like a message board response...

 
HuskerMav11 said:
Having a .edu email address isn't anything special. I could register a .edu domain without being affiliated with any sort of educational institution.

I'm skeptical, as many will be, that you're not just full of s#!t. His response doesn't sound like an email from a chancellor. It sounds like a message board response...
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This is the chain. I sent it to Perlman's email with my Husker account, and received an email from his account. I don't give a damn what you believe. Someone asked to see what he replied and I showed them. Who would make this up , and for what purpose? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[SIZE=10pt]You can appreciate the volume of messages so I apologize for this tardy response.  Fan and alumni Input helps us do our work better and the voices we heard influenced this matter.  We have the opportunity to become that Championship Team we all would like to have.  Thanks again and GBR.  Hal

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[SIZE=12pt]The original email on this chain was sent 11/1/15.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]This was not the right coach to fit Nebraska's culture and expectations at that time.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]This is not the right coach to fit Nebraska's Culture or expectations at this time.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]I wish I had been wrong.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Hire Scott Frost and let him heal the program before we sink any further into obscurity.[/SIZE]
 
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Sir I appreciate your response to my concerns. As an alum it means a great deal to me. Please take note of other fans. The environment is turning toxic around the program I love.
 
Scott Frost is the guy to heal the wounds. This is all the input I have on the matter as I respectfully acknowledge you are a busy man.
 
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Thanks for your considered expression of concerns and we appreciate your commitment. Hal
 
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Greetings. My wife and I are proud alumni. My entire family pride themselves with lifetime support and association with Nebraska, specifically football.
 
This team has always represented the state and fans on a level that is unprecedented in sports. I am more than concerned presently at the coaching staff that has been selected to lead our student athletes. They do not, and honestly will not meet the expectations of Nebraska.
 
I have a fairly engaged pulse with the heartbeat of the fan base. They are becoming apathetic. Many are vowing to not renew their tickets, provide donations, buy gear, or watch the games unless a change is made. This is troubling and can not be allowed to continue.
 
A mistake was made in this hire. The principals of sunk cost apply. Regardless of what money has been committed retaining this staff will result in revenue loss well beyond that expense if the fans lose support.
 
I am more than sure if it is purely a revenue concern the fans and alumni will collectively support a new coaching staff fundraiser to meet the needs.
 
Making a bad hire is a mistake any school can make. Nebraska football may never recover if immediate steps are not taken to rectify this error.
 
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unlfan said:
Can't wait until this sad, pathetic man is kicked out of town. He single handedly destroyed the college experience of many young men. He's a black Mark on this program that may never get fully erased. 
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Good god............the dude isn't a bad guy, he's actually a really nice guy, he's just a crappy football coach. Folks need to quit attacking the guys character and understand that he's a decent man that was in way over his head here and never should've been here as the football coach. It's as simple as that, just because he's a bad football coach doesn't mean the guy is basically a P.O.S. 

 
I thought he was a good coach that just never had the resources to be elite.  I trusted in SE and figured this was a pretty solid hire.

I remember going back and forth with a few from the Northwest saying how bad Riley and Banker were.

Well, they were right and I was wrong.

 
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