NBA Arguments Tangent Thread

Nobody on the Bulls could stop Durant but some random guys from France can force him into 4/12, 1/6, 2 rebs, 2 assists, 5 fouls....


Yeah, those random NBA starters/All Star/DPOY.  :lol:

Well Rudy Gobert isn't that random. He's a three-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year, second best in NBA history.  Evan Fournier started for the Celtics this year. Nicolas Batum has NBA playoff experience with both Portland and the Clippers. 

Remember the time Pat Riley switched Voshon Leonard onto Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals, and MJ went 0-14 before finally finishing 9 - 35?

Didn't think so.

Not a good look for Team USA and a bad night for Durant, but guys with a lot more NBA experience than you guys have no trouble giving Kevin Durant his due. 

Ooops. I meant to say "you ****-suckers" 


Exactly. Folks have very selective memory with Jordan. He was fantastic. Probably the GOAT, but good lord. He "got got" during his time in the NBA.

I'm also enjoying the charade by some on here that somehow a bad game by Durant, where he's probably not that interested (right or wrong), negates his 10+ year display of being one of the best scorers in league history. It's hilarious.

 
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Yeah, those random NBA starters/All Star/DPOY.  :lol:

Exactly. Folks have very selective memory with Jordan. He was fantastic. Probably the GOAT, but good lord. He "got got" during his time in the NBA.

I'm also enjoying the charade by some on here that somehow a bad game by Durant, where he's probably not that interested (right or wrong), negates his 10+ year display of being one of the best scorers in league history. It's hilarious.
I think what it MIGHT show is that NBA defense is not good and they collude to let dudes score at will so they can make more money and now that it is not about the money, real defense shows up and KD struggles.  

But also, they lost to France, a team with 2.5 guys that play in the NBA...last I checked everyone on the US team plays in the NBA,

 
In the end it doesn't really matter but it just sucks when you are trying to prove your point and then BOOM, falls apart in OT vs a lame team...BOOM gets beat by Nigeria...BOOM gets beat by another lame team and BOOM gets killed by France.

Trust me, I know what it is like to be fighting the good fight and bad s#!t keeps happening to the person you are defending, like when I was defending my last GF while it turns out she was on a date with another dude. 

The worst part is none of this was even the argument, it just turned out to be so freaking funny that all this bad s#!t could happen in the last 6 weeks.

 
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Maybe we should take the top 20 college kids and have them play together and send them.

1)  They will play hard

2)  (the only excuse I will give the NBA guys)  Their season didn't just get over.  They will be fresh.

3)  Not as emabarassing when they lose.

 
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In the end it doesn't really matter but it just sucks when you are trying to prove your point and then BOOM, falls apart in OT vs a lame team...BOOM gets beat by Nigeria...BOOM gets beat by another lame team and BOOM gets killed by France.

Trust me, I know what it is like to be fighting the good fight and bad s#!t keeps happening to the person you are defending, like when I was defending my last GF while it turns out she was on a date with another dude. 

The worst part is none of this was even the argument, it just turned out to be so freaking funny that all this bad s#!t could happen in the last 6 weeks.


Like I said, it's comical that you're letting the results of a few meaningless basketball games cloud your judgement of a guy who has consistently show his greatness, on the offensive side of the game, throughout his career.

None of what has happened in the past couple weeks changes my argument at all, so it doesn't suck at all. The Warriors of Curry, Klay, Durant, and Green would beat the Bulls. I still find that to be true. Also, like I mentioned, I can't stand KD. I root against him consistently, but pretending (which is what you're doing) that he isn't one of the best scorers of all time, and that he wouldn't cause the Bulls all kinds of fits, is ridiculously hilarious. Those Warriors teams have two guys (Curry, Durant) that are unlike anything those Bulls teams ever seen. Jordan was fantastic, and would obviously be able to play right with, or outplay the Warriors trio, individually. But the rest of that team would be completely overwhelmed. 

A good way to look at it would be to take off the best player from each team (Jordan and Durant). Do you still think the Bulls would win that series? Of course not. The Warriors (still having Curry and Thompson) would almost certainly sweep them. Now, add back in Jordan and Durant.... Jordan could probably get them a couple, but he wouldn't flip that series.

You guys can't be clutching onto your heros like this into your 30s and 40s. It's not healthy. I get it though. I like to believe that the 95 Huskers would beat that Alabama team from last year, when that Alabama team would probably drub them by 14+. It's a hard pill to take.

As you said, it doesn't matter. It's a match up we'll never see get played. :dunno

 
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Like I said, it's comical that you're letting the results of a few meaningless basketball games cloud your judgement of a guy who has consistently show his greatness, on the offensive side of the game, throughout his career.

None of what has happened in the past couple weeks changes my argument at all, so it doesn't suck at all. The Warriors of Curry, Klay, Durant, and Green would beat the Bulls. I still find that to be true. Also, like I mentioned, I can't stand KD. I root against him consistently, but pretending (which is what you're doing) that he isn't one of the best scorers of all time, and that he wouldn't cause the Bulls all kinds of fits, is ridiculously hilarious. Those Warriors teams have two guys (Curry, Durant) that are unlike anything those Bulls teams ever seen. Jordan was fantastic, and would obviously be able to play right with, or outplay the Warriors trio, individually. But the rest of that team would be completely overwhelmed. 

A good way to look at it would be to take off the best player from each team (Jordan and Durant). Do you still think the Bulls would win that series? Of course not. The Warriors (still having Curry and Thompson) would almost certainly sweep them. Now, add back in Jordan and Durant.... Jordan could probably get them a couple, but he wouldn't flip that series.

You guys can't be clutching onto your heros like this into your 30s and 40s. It's not healthy. I get it though. I like to believe that the 95 Huskers would beat that Alabama team from last year, when that Alabama team would probably drub them by 14+. It's a hard pill to take.

As you said, it doesn't matter. It's a match up we'll never see get played. :dunno
95 team?  Hell, Even Bo's teams would have beaten Bama last year!

 
I think what it MIGHT show is that NBA defense is not good and they collude to let dudes score at will so they can make more money and now that it is not about the money, real defense shows up and KD struggles.  


That's getting a bit QAnon, Teach. 

It's a stone cold fact that playing lazy D in today's NBA will get you benched, off the team, or your market worth seriously devalued. The old NBA had some great two-way players and some defensive specialists just like today's game, but it also had more playground ballers who played matador defense so they could get a quicker start back to the offensive end. So while you keep dipping back to the enforcers from the Bulls and PIstons era, I'm just saying more players play better defense today, in a game where you can't even hand-check.

Everyone is trying to figure out why a U.S. team with all that talent can look so bad. The folks who follow this more closely than I do claim it's not that big of a surprise: the international game is far more competitive than '92, when the Dream Team inspired the boom, and those countries have cohesive teams that have often played together for years, while Team U.S.A. has guys who just landed in Tokyo 20 hours before tip-off. 

If the U.S. fails to medal, it's a black eye for the American NBA. It's not exactly proof that the Bulls would have beaten the Warriors. 

a$$h@!e. 

Just kidding. The Shed made me say it. 

 
I think one of the posts before was telling me how the NBA no longer uses big men and that is why the defense is so much better today...Hmmm


Was that me? Hard to tell anymore.

Either way, you got it wrong. 

The NBA uses big men more than ever. They're just not traditional centers. Instead of being low-post scorers and rim protectors, you now have 6' 11"" guys who are excellent ball-handlers, can bring the ball up the floor, and hit 35% of their three point shots, in addition to playing a low post game if needed. That just wasn't happening 30 years ago. So in this new position-less game, every player has to be able to guard multiple positions. So more players have to play better defense, with new rules that make playing defense more difficult. 

ipso facto, that size and skill combination would likely challenge the old f#&%ers from the NBA East a lot more than they pretend, dreaming they'd just lay out these punks with a forearm shiver. 

Fun fact:  your girlfriend was probably prettier in 1992 than she is today, and for most of you, illegal. 

 
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