Nebraska is the best team in the North

DocNice said:
HuskerJosh said:
LOL. How can you possibly say the Nevada score wasn't in question?
Click to expand...
Because Mizzou was clearly superior. We were marching up and down the field in the second half, and Nevada was squeaking out first downs just barely. After the first possession, they had no drives over 70 yards and only 2 over 50. They were moving the ball with the up the gut run, but that's about it, and it's the easiest adjustment in college football, which we didn't even need to make to stop them.
Click to expand...
Where you buy those rose-colored glasses? Nevada ran all over Missouri. So Missouri's coaches didn't make the easiest adjustment in football? Damn, that's sad.

 
DocNice said:
Enhance89 said:
Can we please not have another thread turn into a MU v. NU fan "Who's d*ck is bigger?" argument? It's old and annoying. If you guys have comments about another post then comment the right way. Don't turn this into Tigerboard :wacko: May as well hear it from me before a MOD.

Anyways, it is my honest opinion as well that Nebraska is the best team in the North. Nobody is playing defense as well as Nebraska is. Nobody. Nebraska's offensive and defensive lines are the best units in the North, and I'm not just speculating. It is obvious from the way they play. The blow off the line, are extremely physical and extremely quick. Suh hasn't been shut down one game this year and has posted at least 5 tackles every game this year.

Offensively, Nebraska is inexperienced but you wouldn't know it had you watched their non-con games. They played very well the last two games and have seemed to correct their dropped ball issues. I would give Kansas they edge offensively, but you can't go through a season playing for shoot outs. Eventually your offense is going to hit a rough patch and you're going to need to rely on your defense. Great defenses are always there, great offenses are not.

Special Teams have also been electrifying for Nebraska. With the exception of VaTech's big opening kick off return, Nebraska has dominated Special Teams. Alex Henerey is the best field goal kicker in the Big 12 and probably one of the favorites for the Lou Groza Award. He is also punting like he's been doing it for years. Kunalic has also sent more kicks out of the endzone this year then he has had returnable. Very impressive.
Click to expand...
I happen to like Tigerboard a lot. It's probably the best independent board out there, and certainly the most original. That's not just my opinion either, I've seen sportswriters give it props. Most people are thrown by the color scheme and thread organization, but it's actually superior once you're used to it. Much easier to follow a debate. But to each his own.

My point is, what are you basing your opinion of Nebraska on? Your defense has played well. No doubt about it. And your offense played very well until it met real competition. But that sort of proves my point. Your defense hasn't really met real competition yet, and your offense already failed its only test against real competition. Virginia Tech is one dimensional (115th in passing offense) and played into your strength.

Putting all smack aside, I'm impressed with NU this year. I honestly thought going into the season, no offense, that you were WAY overrated. I thought you were getting attention based on name alone (still think that as far are preseason anyway) and that your "streak" was against inferior competition (also still think that). Sorry if I offended. BUT, to this point, you have been sharp on offense except for one game, and very sharp on defense. I still think you're not as talented as Mizzou nearly across the board, but Pelini does appear to be a very good defensive coach and the players buy into it. And the offense is competent enough. You are without a doubt a legit top 25 team and a threat in the North.

Quickly, I know my talent comment will raise some hackles. But look at the speed differences on the field the last few years. It's not close. Now, I know you've got some nice new bodies, especially in the front seven, that are upgrading your speed. But Mizzou has done the same. We have hands down the fastest defense I've ever seen at Mizzou, including the 2007 defense that had about half of them get drafted.
Click to expand...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 
DocNice said:
Well, I think you've got a good point about the lines, and as much as I hate to say it, you've got a strong enough argument that most people would probably agree. Clearly, you are better at DT, and your rushing attack produced well enough at Virginia Tech to suggest the offensive line is better as well (particularly given MU's rushing attack vs Nevada).

However, I don't think it's clear cut, and I don't know that even if NU is better, it's by a lot. I'm open to the argument though. Mizzou has quite a bit in its favor though.

A lot of people see that we lost our 2 starting DE's and slid back. Not so. These DE's are beasts. Coulter is playing like the heralded recruit we expected. Jacquies Smith is showing why he saw action as a frosh last year, and Aldon Smith is looking like he won't make it to his senior year before the pros cherry pick him. This is easily our best DE rotation since I've been watching Mizzou, and they're so good that sometimes we put 3 on the field at the same time in place of a tackle.

We have gone back some at DT. I'd still say we're average there. We're quick and have good size, but the technique hasn't been consistent. Nevada exposed us a little there, but they've been solid aside from that, so I wouldn't call them below average.

On offense, I don't know what to think. I'd say we're about the same as last year. We were supposed to be better, and maybe eventually we will be. Most plays that break up seem to be more from errors than getting beat, but they also don't seem to move people out. We were AWFUL against Nevada in rushing, but good against a supposedly wicked pass rush. We were AWFUL in pass protection against Illinois, but dominated stretches of most of our games in the running attack, especially the second half. We've generally beaten up on smaller lines and gotten mixed results against better lines, so I expect the same against NU. If they show up with the same effort they gave against Nevada, it will put a lot of pressure on the passing game, but I don't think we should expect that necessarily.
Click to expand...
See guys, Missouri fans are quite knowledgeable if you don't egg em on. :)

I think upcoming years will be an exciting time for Missouri. You might have one of the best future NFL QB prospects ever out of Missouri. Before he graduates though, maybe you can start trying to convince the NFL that prominent-shotgun quarterbacks CAN make it in the NFL. For some reason, they have their heads up their asses on this one. Maybe there is some legitimacy to what they think, but I have trouble seeing it.

One thing I would like to point out is conference play is always a whole other ball game. Teams bring extra fire and passion during conference play, so we will probably see both teams up their game for next week and play with a real purpose. Should be an exciting time.

 
HuskerJosh said:
Where you buy those rose-colored glasses? Nevada ran all over Missouri. So Missouri's coaches didn't make the easiest adjustment in football? Damn, that's sad.
Click to expand...
Why would they? Nevada's last 10 possessions averaged 25 yards. And Mizzou stiffened against that play in the 4th quarter without adjusting, especially on short yardage.

As far as giving up yardage to Nevada, they returned most of the key players from last year's team that was the #3 rushing offense in the country. This year, they still rank in the top 50 (and would be around there even without our game). Additionally, we held them to their lowest per rush average of the season, and of course 13 points (not counting garbage time against our prevent defense).

 
Enhance89 said:
I think upcoming years will be an exciting time for Missouri. You might have one of the best future NFL QB prospects ever out of Missouri.
Click to expand...
I'm glad we agree. I would say that Mizzou appears to be here to stay as long as we have Pinkel and hopefully for good. Old timers will remember that Mizzou was a pretty storied program at one point. Not Nebraska, not Oklahoma, but pretty darned good. Before our two lost decades, we were pretty much tied in the Nebraska series. So football is a big deal there and I think they're not going away easily. Obviously a good QB helps you out big time, but Mizzou has enough talent coming in to stay among the ranked consistently.

And the good news is that Pinkel has a track record of recruiting and developing top QBs. He's put like 7 in the NFL. And he also has a track record of finding hidden talent in Texas. He only has to out-recruit the big guys for a few players a year to be pretty darned good.

The next level for MU has to be getting better linemen though. I like who we've got, but we've got 2 of the top 4 programs in the country this conference. If you want to win the Big 12, you have to be national title contender good, or at least in the neighborhood. You can't do that with an above average line.

 
husker B-rent said:
Malth said:
husker B-rent said:
Malth said:
husker B-rent said:
they do not scare me at all.
Click to expand...
Don't get cocky.
Click to expand...
im as cocky as they come and i dont give a damn, i have seen both teams play every game except one of MUs and that includes both teams PPVs and they do not scare me at all.

some husker fans need to get their swagger back and stop cowering at the sight of another patsy.
Click to expand...

There's a difference between confidence and arrogance. We need to take every game very seriously and never assume that we're just gonna roll an opponent.
Click to expand...
its not assuming when you base your opinion on actually watching both teams. i can be as cocky as i want and i hope like hell that the skers have that same swagger that i do. i have never gone into a game that i played or was a fan of thinking my team would lose and i never will.

husker fans used to have that cocky swagger..
Click to expand...

I've never understood how being cocky (especially as a fan) has ever helped win games.

When I think of "cocky" fans or players, I think of Miami..btw..why do they (canes) call it "the U" when they are introducing the players in NFL games and having the players include where they went to school?

Miami seemed to be getting their ugly "swagger" back again this year..Didn't do them much good against VaTech, though..Still wonder why Miami is ranked so much higher than us even though we pretty much outplayed VTech the week before...

Missouri has been my least favourite conference team most years, and I hate giving them props, but I was telling my brother yesterday that I expect Gabbert to end up being the best QB to ever come out of this conference.

Neither team has played a complete team yet nor one that will resemble each other in team strengths.

And it's true that previous year's games mean very little to this game coming up, but to the players? last year's game means a lot more than the winning streak of a decade ago.

VaTech exposed a few of our weaknesses toward the end of the game..just like Nevada showed us (hopefully) how to best get yardage agaist them..Wonder if we can resurect any of our power running game in time?....Even though the game starts off zero to zero, We've got a lot of points to make up..I THINK we can do it.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Enhance89 said:
walksalone said:
catmanzou said:
Can't wait to read this board on Friday, October 9th. Let me speculate on what might be said:

1) Bo's a bad coach - he need's to go.

2) Missery just dominated us.

3) Zach Lee made to many mistakes.

4) Did we really turn the ball over four times?

5) Bo's right, our defense is soft.

6) We suck.

Feel free to cut and paste the above to save time on the 9th.
Click to expand...
In the words of a older gentleman that likes to put on headgear to make 18 yr old college coed's lose control of their senses...

Not so fast my friend....

Just as fast as we could be saying the aforementioned, this could also be heard...

1. Hand Pinkel his pink slip

2. The Blackshirts are back

3. Can we give Gabbert back to the Huskers

4. Did Helu just run for over 150 yards and 3 scores on us?

5. We Suck
Click to expand...
These will be the prominent headlines in the Missouri paper...

1. Gabbert's Head Still Missing! Suh Shows No Sympathy.

2. Missouri Bust: MU Ends Football Program After Embarrassing Nebraska Loss, saying 'We'll Never Win Again'

3. Heeeelluuuuu to You: Roy Helu Sets NCAA Record for Rushing

4. MU Flops, Pinkel Tarred and Feathered

5. What's That Smell? MU Student Section Urinates Themselves Following Nebraska Win
Click to expand...

All fing great, especially #5! xD :lol:

 
What happened to my thread?

I'll assume that if you posted in this thread, that it was to affirm that the Nebraska Cornhuskers are a superior football team in every way. Thank you and GO BIG RED!

 
Why are Missou fans puffing out their chest about their offense? They put up big numbers, but against who? Yeah, Illinois is the team they hang their hat on, but they looked real impressive in their 30-0 spanking at the hands of Ohio State. If they were a halfway decent team, you think Illinois could have at least put up a field goal. But they put up zero instead.

Let's just take a look at what the "great" Missou offense has been up against:

Illinois D--

Total D = 90th

Scoring D = 88th

Bowling Green D--

Total D = 88th

Scoring D = 82nd

Furman (an FCS school, by the way) D--

Total D = 90th

Scoring D = 76th

Nevada--

Total D = 112th

Scoring D = 109th

I mean, how can you honestly look at those stats and say the Missou offense has faced anything but well below average defensive teams?

And then the thing Missou fans fall back on is that VT is not real good. Really? Ask Miami how "bad" they are. Many people (me included) expected Miami to run away with this one, but VT didn't just win, they absolutely dismantled Miami offensively and defensively.

But I'm sure Miami was overrated right? VT has proved to be a solid team, and to say otherwise is ridiculous.

October 8th cannot come soon enough.

 
Michael said:
Why are Missou fans puffing out their chest about their offense? They put up big numbers, but against who? Yeah, Illinois is the team they hang their hat on, but they looked real impressive in their 30-0 spanking at the hands of Ohio State. If they were a halfway decent team, you think Illinois could have at least put up a field goal. But they put up zero instead.

Let's just take a look at what the "great" Missou offense has been up against:

Illinois D--

Total D = 90th

Scoring D = 88th

Bowling Green D--

Total D = 88th

Scoring D = 82nd

Furman (an FCS school, by the way) D--

Total D = 90th

Scoring D = 76th

Nevada--

Total D = 112th

Scoring D = 109th

I mean, how can you honestly look at those stats and say the Missou offense has faced anything but well below average defensive teams?

And then the thing Missou fans fall back on is that VT is not real good. Really? Ask Miami how "bad" they are. Many people (me included) expected Miami to run away with this one, but VT didn't just win, they absolutely dismantled Miami offensively and defensively.

But I'm sure Miami was overrated right? VT has proved to be a solid team, and to say otherwise is ridiculous.

October 8th cannot come soon enough.
Click to expand...
I don't really like to jump in on pissing contests between fan bases based on basically nothing, but this was a great post. Missouri fans should curb their enthusiasm until they play someone. I said it as I was watching the Illinois game––Zook's squad just plain sucks. Mizzou does not have a single quality win this year. Doesn't mean they won't.

But neither does Nebraska. Yes, we smacked V-tech around in their own house and then blew it, but regardless, we've got a lot to prove. That said, Nebraska has the better defense in this game and a comparable offense. We don't throw the rock around as much, which is good, because Mizzou is fairly weak against the run.

And as you just demonstrated, they haven't played a defense with a pulse. Nebraska has.

 
Back
Top