New Offensive Coordinator options?

[Undone]

I also find it funny that you claim he doesn't have the guts to fire a coach when so many people didn't like Trev being hired because he was so ruthless in his last position.

Those people just must not be very good at drawing conclusions and connecting dots.

Nobody gives a s*** about the UNO wrestling program or UNO athletics. I mean, maybe a few hundred people do.

Being the athletic director at NU and making a decision about firing Scott Frost as the head football coach isn't even in the same area code.

 

[Decoy73]

It’s not going to matter who the new OC is if we don’t get a good ST coach.  And I’m not confident that we will.  Scott thinking we have a specialist problem instead of a ST problem is just flat wrong. I like Coach, but it’s just disappointing that he doesn’t see this.  

 

[Huskers93-97]

It’s not going to matter who the new OC is if we don’t get a good ST coach.  And I’m not confident that we will.  Scott thinking we have a specialist problem instead of a ST problem is just flat wrong. I like Coach, but it’s just disappointing that he doesn’t see this.  

Maybe having the opening kickoff taken to the house will give him something to consider.

 

[Undone]

I'll restate my thesis:

Are we actually "close" on offense, or are we not close? Reading through people's impressions of the Wisconsin game you'd assume people think we're "close?"

Well, the administration & Frost apparently don't think we're close, because they fired four key offensive coaches. To be clear, I agree that Greg Austin needed to be canned.

Then you have Scott saying "I'm just spreading myself too thin and I'm too focused on offensive responsibilities." Ok...but you brought in Lubick to run the modified Oregon scheme you are hell bent on running. You brought him in because you thought Troy Walters wasn't doing it well and that Lubick would.

Do we see how many contradictions there are here?

My biggest concern revolves around how far the new hires deviate from what we were already doing. Because if it's a big deviation, this team may not be ready to roll for 2022. And if we crash & burn again in 2022, the Scott Frost experiment is over anyway. It practically already is.

 

[BigRedBuster]

Those people just must not be very good at drawing conclusions and connecting dots.

So you admit the tin foil hat above fits. 

 

[Nebfanatic]

It’s not going to matter who the new OC is if we don’t get a good ST coach.  And I’m not confident that we will.  Scott thinking we have a specialist problem instead of a ST problem is just flat wrong. I like Coach, but it’s just disappointing that he doesn’t see this.  

Hard to argue any one thing has cost us more wins than special teams this season. Most games we really do enough in 2 phases to win but its that 3rd phase that bites us in the a$$

 

[Undone]

So you admit the tin foil hat above fits. 

You can take whatever jabs you want at me that you'd like. I'll stick to the arguments at hand.

You lumped me into a group of people that I am not a part of when you said:

I also find it funny that you claim he doesn't have the guts to fire a coach when so many people didn't like Trev being hired because he was so ruthless in his last position.

I'm not one of those people. Do you understand?

 

[Undone]

Hard to argue any one thing has cost us more wins than special teams this season. Most games we really do enough in 2 phases to win but its that 3rd phase that bites us in the a$$

Exactly.

I've been saying since the end of the 2019 season that the number one problem this program has is special teams. It has cost us 2-3 wins per year since Frost's second season.

So instead of addressing the most glaring, tangible problem right in front of them, they fired four offensive coaches and are doing essentially nothing about special teams.

 

[BigRedBuster]

You can take whatever jabs you want at me that you'd like. I'll stick to the arguments at hand.

You lumped me into a group of people that I am not a part of when you said:

I'm not one of those people. Do you understand?

I didn't lump you into that group.  If I did, I would have worded it as such.

 

[Hayseed]

Seeing the great job they did against Wisconsin I’m okay with the staff we have. Just let Brown call all red zone plays.

Edit: Of course we need to hire the most proven Special Teams coach in the country.

 

[Huskers93-97]

I learned we play well enough against all our opponents to lose by less than 10. Oh wait- we already knew that. So my takeaway is I learned nothing new. 

 

[RedDenver]

I'll restate my thesis:

Are we actually "close" on offense, or are we not close? Reading through people's impressions of the Wisconsin game you'd assume people think we're "close?"

Well, the administration & Frost apparently don't think we're close, because they fired four key offensive coaches. To be clear, I agree that Greg Austin needed to be canned.

Then you have Scott saying "I'm just spreading myself too thin and I'm too focused on offensive responsibilities." Ok...but you brought in Lubick to run the modified Oregon scheme you are hell bent on running. You brought him in because you thought Troy Walters wasn't doing it well and that Lubick would.

Do we see how many contradictions there are here?

No, I'm not seeing contradictions here. We're close on offense, so we tried some changes to get closer. Firing offensive coaches doesn't automatically mean Frost or admin doesn't think we're close on offense. Frost saying he's spread too thin and firing Lubick actually go together - Frost needs someone to be able to handle OC without a lot of oversight and if Lubick isn't that guy, then he should be replaced. You can think Frost isn;t going to get it done or that the firings won't help get us any closer, but they aren't contradictions.

My biggest concern revolves around how far the new hires deviate from what we were already doing. Because if it's a big deviation, this team may not be ready to roll for 2022. And if we crash & burn again in 2022, the Scott Frost experiment is over anyway. It practically already is.

Yep, Frost needs to hit some homerun hires. And not based on fan or external perception of the hires but rather actual performance next season.

 

[Born N Bled Red]

Exactly.

I've been saying since the end of the 2019 season that the number one problem this program has is special teams. It has cost us 2-3 wins per year since Frost's second season.

So instead of addressing the most glaring, tangible problem right in front of them, they fired four offensive coaches and are doing essentially nothing about special teams.

They have been trying to address special teams. First it was divided between key staff members. Each coached a portion of special teams. Didn't work so then they brought in Rutledge as an analyst. He got canned. I honestly think he likely reported NU to the NCAA for practice infractions out of spite. Then this year, they tried handing it all to Dawson. 

So they have certainly been trying different configurations to address the problem. Of course, the only one they haven't tried is hiring a full time coach. Which I think all of Husker Nation believes needs to be done. 

 

[Undone]

Yep, Frost needs to hit some homerun hires. And not based on fan or external perception of the hires but rather actual performance next season.

Going back to some of the other posts: I believe I have good evidence to lay out that firing Lubick probably wasn't Frost's idea alone. Not really sure my opinion on that is worthy of the tin foil hat thing, although the image you posted was funny. Might even make it my profile image.

Again, Frost fired Walters after two years. When he brought Lubick on, there were several comments made that made it sound like Lubick was actually his first choice guy. And that's not really a surprise because of his ties to the Oregon scheme.

Scott doesn't really strike me as the kind of guy that fires an OC every two years nor as somebody who scapegoats his guys for some of his own shortcomings.

Of course I could be wrong and maybe Lubick was just flat out slacking. But I really doubt that's the case, and the scheme and play calling was in my opinion pretty on-point this season.

The biggest problems were special teams and not having an offensive line that was physical and prepared. Therefore I think Lubick got scapegoated, and if we bring in a guy who drastically changes the scheme & playbook I really think we're setting ourselves up for failure in 2022.

I want to be wrong about all of this. Really do.

 

[RedDenver]

Going back to some of the other posts: I believe I have good evidence to lay out that firing Lubick probably wasn't Frost's idea alone. Not really sure my opinion on that is worthy of the tin foil hat thing, although the image you posted was funny. Might even make it my profile image.

There's not any good evidence for that, just rumor and speculation, which is why I posted the tinfoil hat. Thanks for having a sense of humor though.

Again, Frost fired Walters after two years. When he brought Lubick on, there were several comments made that made it sound like Lubick was actually his first choice guy. And that's not really a surprise because of his ties to the Oregon scheme.

Scott doesn't really strike me as the kind of guy that fires an OC every two years nor as somebody who scapegoats his guys for some of his own shortcomings.

Of course I could be wrong and maybe Lubick was just flat out slacking. But I really doubt that's the case, and the scheme and play calling was in my opinion pretty on-point this season.

I don't think Lubick has to be a slacker, but maybe he wasn't good at something like game planning that Frost felt like he had to help with. Or maybe he sucked at position coaching the WR's or coaching the WR's was taking a lot of Lubick's time. I don't know, but there's a lot of reasons why Frost wouldn't feel like he could just turn over the offense to Lubick. Given that all the O coaches except Beckton were fired, there's probably a lot going on behind the scenes.

The biggest problems were special teams and not having an offensive line that was physical and prepared.

Agreed. But the RB's and WR's, while not as bad as the OL, weren't exactly developing either.

Therefore I think Lubick got scapegoated, and if we bring in a guy who drastically changes the scheme & playbook I really think we're setting ourselves up for failure there.

Lubick could be scapegoated but just as likely he wasn't since we don't actually have evidence either way. Drastic changes to the scheme could definitely set us up for failure, but also possible a change works out better if it fits the players better. Or the OC won't make drastic changes, which is entirely possible since we don't even know who it is yet. It's fun to speculate and debate, but we won't really know anything until a few games into next season.