Nick Gates

Simply don’t understand this move. He’s not a top 4 round talent. After watching and knowing what frost did at UCF and observing the excitement UCF plays with it is astonishing to me that any current player wouldn’t buy into Frost’s culture or want a year in it... 

 
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I think Benning pretty much said today that Gates didn’t like the idea of playing for free and if he was going to have to bust his tail, he might as well get paid doing it. 

 
bugeater17 said:
Simply don’t understand this move. He’s not a top 4 round talent. After watching and knowing what frost did at UCF and observing the excitement UCF plays with it is astonishing to me that any current player wouldn’t buy into Frost’s culture or want a year in it... 
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Dan Hoppen brought up a good point on Twitter today that he's not super high on Gates' NFL potential but he would've said the same thing about Alex Lewis, Brent Qvale and Zach Sterup. All three of the latter have now started NFL games.

Gates could be a mid-to-late rounder and that'll get him an opportunity. It's a little different being an NFL linemen and the right coach/situation could prove beneficial.

 
Sometimes guys could risk millions by staying in college, (injury) I think Gates could make millions by staying in college. (not ready)  The only thought is system.  The Riley system is more of a NFL system.  New one may not be.  I guess for an OL guy learning a new system could be tough?  Don't really know.

Either way good luck.

 
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I doubt very much Gates will play tackle in the NFL.  I project him at guard where his lack of footwork will be less of a problem.....unless they want him to pull.

 
Savage Husker said:
I think Benning pretty much said today that Gates didn’t like the idea of playing for free and if he was going to have to bust his tail, he might as well get paid doing it. 
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It would be smarter for him to stay to increase his speed, strength, stamina etc as a financial investment.  This would also help job security.

But if what Benning said is true, I’d rather not have someone with that kind of mentality here.

Nick, never mind my first paragraph; you’re ready for the pros.  Get dem Benjamins, bruh.

 
Something else to consider is that Gates already has a huge amount of D1 playing--even without his final year of eligibility.  35 starts, plus a red-shirt year on the scout team.  That's way more than most O-linemen get in their whole college careers.  A body can only take so many collisions before it starts falling apart.   Might be time for him to bank some coin in the NFL. 

 
NUance said:
Something else to consider is that Gates already has a huge amount of D1 playing--even without his final year of eligibility.  35 starts, plus a red-shirt year on the scout team.  That's way more than most O-linemen get in their whole college careers.  A body can only take so many collisions before it starts falling apart.   Might be time for him to bank some coin in the NFL. 
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How much does the average scout teamer get paid? 

 
BlitzFirst said:
I think this is probably more true than the stupid narratives people are putting out there for him now i.e.

1. He doesn't like to work

2. He's undisciplined

3. He'd lose his starting position

4. He is penalized tons and is worthless

I think people have selective memory.  Everything in this thread is conjecture..and we're throwing players who bled red for us under the bus by not giving them the benefit of the doubt. 
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The last two can be labeled as "stupid narratives"

The first two are almost common knowledge at this point. 

 
I dunno. If both Benning and Rob Z are alluding that he lacked effort, technique, work ethic...there are reasons I listen to those guys and mostly because they have insight to the program and know what it takes to play D1 football at a high level. 

And fair or unfair, but for me, I really can’t get over his glossy-eyed, lack of emotion, mumbling before the Northwestern game. He’s not the only player just the one we’re discussing, but he checked out and I don’t care what point of the season you’re at, you treat every game and snap as if it’s your last. Can we say he gave that effort? 

With that said, good luck to him in the NFL because I think it’s a win win and I care more about the program. 

 
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