***** Official Election Game Day Thread *****

Enhance said:
True, and if these last two elections have taught me anything, it is that I don't think I have a strong enough gauge of why Americans feel the way they do about certain candidates.

For example, many would argue (and perhaps fairly so) that a vote for Trump means a vote for supporting racism. Do I think 67+ million people think that? No, I do not.

Similarly, I do not think Trump has been a good president. He has had some successes while simultaneously falling flat on a number of key initiatives and promises he made for his first term. He is also not a good global ambassador for this country. But, clearly, a lot of people don't think that matters much... when to me, it matters quite a bit.
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People do need to get their priorities straight.

 
Enhance said:
True, and if these last two elections have taught me anything, it is that I don't think I have a strong enough gauge of why Americans feel the way they do about certain candidates.

For example, many would argue (and perhaps fairly so) that a vote for Trump means a vote for supporting racism. Do I think 67+ million people think that? No, I do not.

Similarly, I do not think Trump has been an objectively good president. He has certainly had successes but has simultaneously fell flat on a number of key initiatives and promises he made for his first term. He is also not a good global ambassador for this country. But, clearly, a lot of people don't think that matters much... when to me, it matters quite a bit.
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The last paragraph is why I don't understand people who say they're not voting for the personality but the platform. He hasn't actually really done what he claimed he would or what he says he's done, for the most part.

 
Enhance said:
He is also not a good global ambassador for this country. But, clearly, a lot of people don't think that matters much... when to me, it matters quite a bit.
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Not only is he not a good global ambassador, but, he is also is a bad representation to the citizens of the USA.  He is not a President for all of the people and proudly proclaims that he is not - just those who support him.  To me this is biggest failure - his  fail of leadership - both in showing strength and also in showing compassion. 

 
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suh_fan93 said:
Trump's biggest failure without question was his reaction and mishandling of Covid.  You know you live in crazy country when you have that fact staring people/voters right in their face yet this race is still somehow close...

No words.  A lot of scary thoughts about this country though.  
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Ya... I already thought we were doomed, now I'm feeling it even more. 'Cause you're a dream to me, dream to me.

 
I think all of those Vegas lines were due to people not understanding the electoral vote, and the math of early/mail in votes and when they're counted. Even people who understood the electoral vote may have been viewing this like a normal election where the % in a county stays the same throughout.

That said it's not over yet, but the lines seemed to change quite a bit like it was in the bag for Trump.

 
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Spin it!

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God this is so bizarre.

Full disclosure, I seriously considered going out and buying a firearm the last few days. Y'all Qaeda and Trump are not going to go quietly...

 
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My guess based on what we are seeing now is that Biden will take Wi, Mich, PA, Ga, Nv and ends up wt 306    Trump gets NC and ends up wt 228.   Trump has a big lead in PA but so much of the Dem part of Phili area has not been counted. 

 
This is still a possibility and not even unlikely. In fact I think based on who is ahead right now, this would be the final tally.

That said Biden could still win Pennsylvania and/or Georgia and/or Maine's final vote, and I think Trump still has a shot in NV or AZ but it's looking unlikely.


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