***** Official Election Game Day Thread *****

RedDenver said:
I'm not sure what you're asking. Trump made clear in the weeks before the election what he was going to do on election night. Not just vague suggestions but specifics such as calling the votes being counted in Pennsylvania as fraud and having the Supreme Court give him the victory.
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I'm not asking anything, he made it clear he wouldn't accept a loss.  Everyone knew that.

 
Can't remember if it was posted already but Trump is up 4.3% in PA now. He's up by 265,000 but Biden will likely cut into that by at least 195,000 just from Philadelphia County. I don't think there are many counties at all where Trump can cushion his lead.

 
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Moiraine said:
Can't remember if it was posted already but Trump is up 4.3% in PA now. He's up by 265,000 but Biden will likely cut into that by at least 195,000 just from Philadelphia County. I don't think there are many counties at all where Trump can cushion his lead.
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My guess now is Biden will have 290 but 306 is still possible. The RCP average was 316-216.

 
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whateveritis1224 said:
Just had a thought that I've co opted from the Internet.

IMO the reason that Trump did better than expected in some areas is down to two things:

1. We're at the point with COVID that people are sick of hearing about it and just want to keep their normal lives going. So while Trump has completely bungled the response, we're passed the initial "freaking out" phase and the public absolutely knows that there won't be another lockdown with Trump. So they voted for him.

2. The other big story, George Floyd and the protests after, allowed Trump to play himself as a law and order President. Someone who will back the police, because they protect the normal people. While the Democrat messaging optics was Police Reform, Police Defunding, etc... One of the Eastman attack ads was basically saying Democrats will allow violent protesters out of prison for no reason other than that they're protesting.

Bottom line, though, is that there is a lot of misinformation presented as fact on the Internet.
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I was thinking the same thing this morning. 

Coronavirus was supposed to be Trump's undoing and Biden's ace, but I think it started to flip in the fall when people just wanted good news and Biden opted to warn them about the long winter ahead.  Trump supporters had already treated Dr. Fauci like a Democrat conspirator, and Don came out of his own COVID case stronger than ever. Covid is full of mixed messages and nobody in America likes mixed messages. 

And yeah, while I was sharing the outrage of the George Floyd killing and considered the street protests utterly justified, I could see the optics playing right into Republican hands. That's how Nixon won in 1968, even though most of America had turned against Vietnam. 

Hard to tell how much the late-breaking ploy to create a Biden Crime Family narrative worked, but it was all I was hearing from Trump supporters over the last month. 

Even if Biden wins, Trump's campaign was hugely successful in ways the pundits and pollsters failed to predict. I don't understand America at this particular moment. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I was thinking the same thing this morning. 

Coronavirus was supposed to be Trump's undoing and Biden's ace, but I think it started to flip in the fall when people just wanted good news and Biden opted to warn them about the long winter ahead.  Trump supporters had already treated Dr. Fauci like a Democrat conspirator, and Don came out of his own COVID case stronger than ever. Covid is full of mixed messages and nobody in America likes mixed messages. 

And yeah, while I was sharing the outrage of the George Floyd killing and considered the street protests utterly justified, I could see the optics playing right into Republican hands. That's how Nixon won in 1968, even though most of America had turned against Vietnam. 

Hard to tell how much the late-breaking ploy to create a Biden Crime Family narrative worked, but it was all I was hearing from Trump supporters over the last month. 

Even if Biden wins, Trump's campaign was hugely successful in ways the pundits and pollsters failed to predict. I don't understand America at this particular moment. 
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At some point yesterday I was reading an article that Trump is the first U.S. presidential candidate to go all in on a base strategy. No one else has done it before. It's a tactic that seems to have worked well for him, but it's terrible for the country.

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I was thinking the same thing this morning. 

Coronavirus was supposed to be Trump's undoing and Biden's ace, but I think it started to flip in the fall when people just wanted good news and Biden opted to warn them about the long winter ahead.  Trump supporters had already treated Dr. Fauci like a Democrat conspirator, and Don came out of his own COVID case stronger than ever. Covid is full of mixed messages and nobody in America likes mixed messages. 

And yeah, while I was sharing the outrage of the George Floyd killing and considered the street protests utterly justified, I could see the optics playing right into Republican hands. That's how Nixon won in 1968, even though most of America had turned against Vietnam. 

Hard to tell how much the late-breaking ploy to create a Biden Crime Family narrative worked, but it was all I was hearing from Trump supporters over the last month. 

Even if Biden wins, Trump's campaign was hugely successful in ways the pundits and pollsters failed to predict. I don't understand America at this particular moment. 
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Fox News and conservative media explains America at the moment. They have been fed nothing but sunshine about Trump while Biden was painted with Trump's deficiencies. 

 
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