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matthew_m_g said:
irafreak said:
beanman said:
AFhusker said:
matthew_m_g said:
Kind of like how we fired a nine-win coach and no big name wanted to come to here to coach as a result?
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That is because Frank left this team devoid of any talent. With the expectations we have here, there is no way anyone could win with the "talent" that he recruited. It was going to be a 5-6 year rebuilding project that the fan base didn't have the patience for....then we go and hire another inexperienced coach who doesn't know how to recruit....so a decade later, we are still in the same place we were back then. Getting hammered by every team with a heartbeat and feasting on crappy teams to a supposed magical "9" win standard.
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Frank had more talent on D leftover for Cally than we have now, by FAR.
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The 2003 defense was a testament to this fact...
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And the defensive coordinator wasn't too shabby, either.
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That's what I don't understand. Super D.......... Come on Bo!

 
FLU said:
We, as fans, have become content with mediocrity. Check out the LSU message boards today -- they have fans calling for Les Miles' head! They EXPECT to win EVERY game. That's how we used to be.
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Now we have a bunch of pansies who are happy with 9 wins and a mediocre bowl game, and continuing our trophy drought from 1999.

 
matthew_m_g said:
irafreak said:
beanman said:
AFhusker said:
matthew_m_g said:
Kind of like how we fired a nine-win coach and no big name wanted to come to here to coach as a result?
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That is because Frank left this team devoid of any talent. With the expectations we have here, there is no way anyone could win with the "talent" that he recruited. It was going to be a 5-6 year rebuilding project that the fan base didn't have the patience for....then we go and hire another inexperienced coach who doesn't know how to recruit....so a decade later, we are still in the same place we were back then. Getting hammered by every team with a heartbeat and feasting on crappy teams to a supposed magical "9" win standard.
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Frank had more talent on D leftover for Cally than we have now, by FAR.
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The 2003 defense was a testament to this fact...
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And the defensive coordinator wasn't too shabby, either.
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It's amazing what he can do with someone else's talent. See 2009 as well. what point are you trying to make?

 
Haspula said:
strigori said:
FLU said:
This is all I hear: "We are at a disadvantage, no recruits will come here, blah blah blah" "No coach will come here, blah blah blah"

Excuses, excuses.
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I will never buy the recruiting thing. OU has no issue, and its not like Norman is a tropical paradise.
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They are closer to Texas and in the big 12. We lost the ability to haul in TX recruits after moving to the big 10
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...just like we lost the Florida and California recruits when we moved to the Big 10 because we don't play in their neighborhood?

 
FLU said:
Rollin said:
FLU said:
How was Alabama able to hire Nick Saban and he is able to get top-tier recruits in Tuscaloosa, a craphole in the middle of Alabama?
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Is that a serious question? That "craphole", and surrounding areas, is where all of the athletes in this country live.... Are you as stupid as the guy in NebraskaHarry's avatar looks?
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Florida and Louisiana are loaded w/ talent. Then again, so are Texas and Cali. That's just another excuse. Get a top-notch recruiter, and a top-notch coach, who players actually WANT to play for, and top players will come here.
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No, thats geography....

 
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