Playstation 4 incoming!

[Lyons in the Sea of Red.]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

 

[Landlord]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

I mean I'd view them equally in that regard. What do you think Microsoft actually has the edge on Sony with the One? Kinect vs Eye, probably, and a partnership with the NFL? I don't know man..."not even close"?

I haven't owned a console in a long time, and don't have a dog in this fight. But I will say that Sony has been doing things (mostly) the right way for just shy of two decades now, and the difference has always been, in my opinion, that Sony focuses on a balance of interests and demographics and even countries, whereas Microsoft has employed the business model of throwing lots and lots of cash towards things and marketing themselves as a very predominantly American product. Not that there is anything "wrong" with that, but personally it leaves a cynical taste in my mouth.

Side note: I don't get the FFXIII bit. So Versus XIII has now been changed into XV? Or is it two games or?

 

[Chaddyboxer]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

I'm really betting Microsoft changes one of three things:

1) The used games policy

2) The 24 hour check in policy--least likely to happen I feel, as this seems to be a hardware issue

3) The price--most likely to happen, because it's the easiest

 

[Landlord]

I'm really betting Microsoft changes one of three things:

1) The used games policy

2) The 24 hour check in policy--least likely to happen I feel, as this seems to be a hardware issue

3) The price--most likely to happen, because it's the easiest

Even if they did change one of those things, it would be a huge PR blow, because they would essentially be admitting that they were in the wrong. Then they would probably compound it by not actually owning it and trying to serve up some PC statement that excuses and sidesteps it.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

I'm really betting Microsoft changes one of three things:

1) The used games policy

2) The 24 hour check in policy--least likely to happen I feel, as this seems to be a hardware issue

3) The price--most likely to happen, because it's the easiest

Even if they did change one of those things, it would be a huge PR blow, because they would essentially be admitting that they were in the wrong. Then they would probably compound it by not actually owning it and trying to serve up some PC statement that excuses and sidesteps it.

I don't think people would care too much about them admitting they were wrong. I know I'd personally prefer if they actually admitted their fault and changed it, instead of just going on pretending like what they're doing isn't stupid.

 

[simplekin]

I've been an Xbox user since the first one came out and had a 360 after that. This time around I was really hoping Sony would knock it out of the park so I could get a PS4. Most of MS policies rubbed me the wrong way...until I really thought about it.

1. Always Online: I have a bonified badass gaming PC. Always online has never been a negative in that respect. Imo, as these systems evolve, almost all games will eventually go this route. Not to mention you're going to need a steady connection for ANY type of multiplayer...and Destiny. Whoa momma!

2. Used Games: I haven't bought a used game in years and never sell my games. (You can't do this with steam or PC anyway) As far lending goes? At least I won't have to worry about my cheap a$$, dead beat friends borrowing my sh#t and then hunting it back down a year later.

3. Worried about the Kinect spying on you? Don't do blow and bang hookers in front of the console.

One last thing: Disc based games are going the way of the dodo. I haven't bought a physical copy of a PC game in about 5 years. Even the 'big' ones come as downloads that are usually cheaper than the physical copy anyway, and you never have to worry about it getting scratched or lost. So when Sony throws up this picture, and it says 'disc based games' at the bottom, they're actually saying the same thing MS has been saying. "It's the publishers decision."

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Husker NoNo]

I've been an Xbox user since the first one came out and had a 360 after that. This time around I was really hoping Sony would knock it out of the park so I could get a PS4. Most of MS policies rubbed me the wrong way...until I really thought about it.

1. Always Online: I have a bonified badass gaming PC. Always online has never been a negative in that respect. Imo, as these systems evolve, almost all games will eventually go this route. Not to mention you're going to need a steady connection for ANY type of multiplayer...and Destiny. Whoa momma!

2. Used Games: I haven't bought a used game in years and never sell my games. (You can't do this with steam or PC anyway) As far lending goes? At least I won't have to worry about my cheap a$$, dead beat friends borrowing my sh#t and then hunting it back down a year later.

3. Worried about the Kinect spying on you? Don't do blow and bang hookers in front of the console.

One last thing: Disc based games are going the way of the dodo. I haven't bought a physical copy of a PC game in about 5 years. Even the 'big' ones come as downloads that are usually cheaper than the physical copy anyway, and you never have to worry about it getting scratched or lost. So when Sony throws up this picture, and it says 'disc based games' at the bottom, they're actually saying the same thing MS has been saying. "It's the publishers decision."

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Apathy]

I haven't seen this brought up but figured I'd inform you all on the Playstation Plus vs Xbox Live

Sure you have to have Playstation Plus to play games online BUT to watch entertainment stuff like Netflix, Amazon Plus, etc., you don't have to have Playstation Plus in order to watch those where the XBoxOne you'll need the XBox Live membership to play and watch movies/tv shows on Netflix, Amazon Plus, etc.

 

[Lyons in the Sea of Red.]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall.

You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close.

 

[Blackshirts007]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall.

You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close.

You've got a very strong bias toward Xbox and its very noticeable. So saying you have both consoles does nothing for me. Lets just wait and let sales numbers tell the story

 

[Lyons in the Sea of Red.]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall.

You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close.

You've got a very strong bias toward Xbox and its very noticeable. So saying you have both consoles does nothing for me. Lets just wait and let sales numbers tell the story

Yeah, try reading. I blatantly said in a reply to Landlords earlier that microsoft will be ruined if their current policies stay intact. Obviously the sales will be stronger for PS4. Microsoft has sh#t on themselves and the PS4 is cheaper, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that bold statement of yours. All I said was that IF microsoft adapted the same policies, I believe the One would be a better console by a fair amount. But those are two huge factors that nearly everyone searching for a new console will take into account.

I will not be buying either one, if that makes you feel any better. Because it seems like you really have a good feel for how I think.

 

[Blackshirts007]

If Microsoft were to adapt the same policies as Sony in regards to used games and no connection required, what do you think is the better console? To me It's xbox and it isn't even close.

If all the same policies were adapted....then yes...I would go with the Xbox One overall....but then again, what experience do you want!? If you want a hardcore gaming experience...I would still take the PS4, but if you want more cable interaction/movies/kinect activities...then I would go with the Xbox One. I guess it leaves it up to personal preference.....but for now, the PS4 is superior IMO overall.

You think PS4 is more of a hardcore gaming experience? Alrighty then. As far as online play goes, you can't even put hardcore and Playstation in the same sentence. I have them both. Trust me, it's not close.

You've got a very strong bias toward Xbox and its very noticeable. So saying you have both consoles does nothing for me. Lets just wait and let sales numbers tell the story

Yeah, try reading. I blatantly said in a reply to Landlords earlier that microsoft will be ruined if their current policies stay intact. Obviously the sales will be stronger for PS4. Microsoft has sh#t on themselves and the PS4 is cheaper, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that bold statement of yours. All I said was that IF microsoft adapted the same policies, I believe the One would be a better console by a fair amount. But those are two huge factors that nearly everyone searching for a new console will take into account.

I will not be buying either one, if that makes you feel any better. Because it seems like you really have a good feel for how I think.

And it takes a rocket scientist to to know Microsoft will shoot themselves in the foot with those policies? So you're saying that your one post about microsofts policies offsets your 5 counter arguments toward someone saying something positive about the ps4?

 

[VectorVictor]

Lyons--just give it up. Any trace of objectivity to these fanbois makes you a Microsoft lover, as they prefer the sound of their own echochamber.

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And never mind that Sony is already backtracking on their no-DRM stance, as it now doesn't apply to third party companies/publishers on the PS4--only first party titles. Also, same article, publishers can restrict used game sales on the PS4 if they so choose to.

Huh...so this is all publisher-driven, and Sony will kowtow to the publishers, just like Microsoft.

Granted, this isn't as draconian as daily DRM check-in for the XBox One, but it's a far cry from the DRM-free messiah console the PS4 supposedly was yesterday.

 

[Blackshirts007]

And boom goes the dynamite.