Probably BS, but saw this posted.

Tried finding the post but couldn't. Must be another guy with "insider" friends. AKA his uncle knows a booster that is always grumpy.

 
AFhusker said:
BoneyardHusker said:
I would be behind Riley 100% if a guy like Frost came in as OC and was groomed to be HC in waiting....that would give me so much comfort knowing I could get behind Riley and now he was teaching one of our future head coaches, and a future HC was being groomed.

That would make sense.
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Honest question and I am not trying to be a smartass. Other than being a former Husker QB, what makes Frost qualified to be a HC here? I thought that the complaint was that we needed a big "splash" hire and Scott is not it. He's not Harbaugh who wins everywhere he goes in which UM was lucky enough that SF was stupid enough to fire him or they would be in the same shape as we are in. If anything Frost's warts are showing now that he doesn't have a Heisman winning QB when it comes to being an OC. The sad truth is that nobody in the TO coaching tree has turned out to be good enough to be the HC at NU. Frost may get there one day, but let him continue to learn at another school. The program was already hurt twice because of TO hiring guys who had no HC experience at the D1 level and as a program we are better than that. I just like everyone on here would have loved TO to have groomed someone (or if he did, Frank didn't listen very closely) to take his place and kept the program where it was at, but that didn't happen. Now we are left with this and it sucks for all of us.
And don't take this as saying that Riley is the answer either, all I know is that he is here and he needs time to fix the mess that Bo left us in. He wasn't one of my top guys to hire either, but wishing for another former husker to cut his teeth at NU is not the answer and it is going to keep us right where we are at with no hope of winning anything meaningful.
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I really liked your posts up until this one. Epically disappointing. This is the thinking that got us into this mess. This is the thinking that needs to be changed. You even go as far to blame Osborne for the current state of things. Gj buddy. Riddle me this, do you agree or disagree with this system: if we keep Soloch up to this date, we would have won more games, divisional, and conference titles. Finished with more top 10 finished than we have thus far?

Also almighty entitled Husker fan, could you please give me the name of your splash hire, after you do that I will follow it up with a side by side of Frost vs theirs resume. So lets begin sir. Who's the splash hire?

 
VectorVictor said:
1995 Redux said:
Guessing it's all talk, but thought I'd share.

This just in.....word among a handful of boosters....Langsdorf demoted to QB coach...Riley takes over play calling...Brian Stewart out as Secondary coach...next year can't come soon enough.... Nebraska is irrelevant and that type of money does not stand for that....boosters are figuring it out for you....Eichorst is scrambling....I'm not liking what I'm hearing... We're in a dark place as a football team...the money is pissed off!
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I've maintained multiple times over that if Riley would replace his coordinators and certain position coaches, that folks would be fine with giving him another year to right the ship--hell, if Callahan had been willing to replace Cosgrove, I still say he'd be our HC to this day and be a rather successful one at that. We'll see if Riley does make these changes--it would be a good step in the right direction, and show he's not content and is willing to do what is necessary to get our program back on track.

As for Eichorst, he's fair game after Harvey steps down. Unless he starts up the UNL Hockey program (keep hearing that's a strong possibility soon), his seat will be rather warm unless Riley can get things fixed.

Regardless, thanks for posting Redux. This program is in a dark place, and the status quo cannot be maintained, as its trajectory is downward.
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Staffing is of the utmost importance. If Frank had staffed as he wanted all along he may well have kept his job. As you said BC's buddy-hires on defense killed his regime. If Eichorst had told Bo to make staffing changes(priority one, bring in a top-notch DC) and got out the checkbook to make them good ones we could be going 11-1 against this sched. Said checks would still cost us less than the massive buyouts we're paying. Of course we don't learn from the past, we hire a new HC then sit-back and watch more buddy-hires being made.

But with the heat rising and Eichorst having pretty-much bet his job on Riley maybe things will change and we'll start staffing with more eye on performance than personal relationships.

 
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Danimal said:
If Eichorst had told Bo to make staffing changes(priority one, bring in a top-notch DC) and got out the checkbook to make them good ones we could be going 11-1 against this sched.
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I was always of the understanding that he did tell Bo to make staffing changes, and Bo told him to eat sh#t.
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I've heard the opposite also alleged, but that's rumor-mill stuff either way. Eichorst has publically said he considers it "micromanaging" to get involved in staffing decisions. Plus, while Bo does have a stubborn streak let's look at common sense. Everyone can go or a couple can go, which one is he more likely to pick? Especially if you tell him you are willing to get out the checkbook for first-rate upgrades? I don't really buy that he wouldn't do it. Bo is no angel but at the same time let's be real about why Eichorst was handpicked by Perlman with no input from TO.

 
Will Muschamp is making 1.6mil for the 97th ranked total defense at Auburn. Open pocket books to get good coaches can help, but it isn't the key to success.

 
My hope is that at the end of the season Riley will be told that he needs to make changes, and Riley, out of loyalty, will refuse and choose to walk instead. One can only hope, right?

 
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zoogs said:
Did we have 3 on the OL, or was it 2 with as much outside extra help as possible for Cotton?I guess I just don't see, if Stew is out as DBs coach, who is coaching the DBs the rest of the year? If he's out anyway, what's the point in telling him now under threat of no recommendation vs making the call at the end of the year?Strong at Texas changed up playcalling duties, but that's not really what these rumors are. Seems wild.
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Well, Watson was demoted by Strong, and the rumors on Shaggy suggest he no longer has a job after the season...so it's not far-fetched...

 
BoneyardHusker said:
I would be behind Riley 100% if a guy like Frost came in as OC and was groomed to be HC in waiting....that would give me so much comfort knowing I could get behind Riley and now he was teaching one of our future head coaches, and a future HC was being groomed.

That would make sense.
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Honest question and I am not trying to be a smartass. Other than being a former Husker QB, what makes Frost qualified to be a HC here? I thought that the complaint was that we needed a big "splash" hire and Scott is not it. He's not Harbaugh who wins everywhere he goes in which UM was lucky enough that SF was stupid enough to fire him or they would be in the same shape as we are in. If anything Frost's warts are showing now that he doesn't have a Heisman winning QB when it comes to being an OC. The sad truth is that nobody in the TO coaching tree has turned out to be good enough to be the HC at NU. Frost may get there one day, but let him continue to learn at another school. The program was already hurt twice because of TO hiring guys who had no HC experience at the D1 level and as a program we are better than that. I just like everyone on here would have loved TO to have groomed someone (or if he did, Frank didn't listen very closely) to take his place and kept the program where it was at, but that didn't happen. Now we are left with this and it sucks for all of us.

And don't take this as saying that Riley is the answer either, all I know is that he is here and he needs time to fix the mess that Bo left us in. He wasn't one of my top guys to hire either, but wishing for another former husker to cut his teeth at NU is not the answer and it is going to keep us right where we are at with no hope of winning anything meaningful.

 
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