Purdue - What did we learn?

Toe said:
I'm more wondering why Indiana is getting the hype over Rutgers. Indiana is a classic 'ain't played nobody'. I'd at least put Rutgers' win over Washington over anyone that Indiana has beaten.

My big concern is that Rutgers has been a strong rushing team, which seems to be the weaker side of our D lately.
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https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/695

We're 46th in pass defense, with 7 TDs allowed. We're 15th in rushing defense, with 0 TDs allowed, and 10th in ypc at 2.75. 

Illinois had some 2nd half and overtime success sure, but that's about it. Passing defense will be our Achilles heel the rest of the year IMO.  Indiana, USC and OSU matchup poorly for us. Luckily though, Rutgers, Iowa and Wisconsin matchup well.

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
I hear you. That one will sting forever. Someone came to Pete Carrol's defense afterwards with the stat that Marshawn Lynch had 5 carries from inside the two yard line that season and only came away with one touchdown. Also something about they could afford to let the clock run on one unsuccessful rush, but not two, and a pass would either be a touchdown or an incompletion. I think they forgot about the third option, which to be fair is the same as a rushing fumble.  
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The way I saw it was Patriots didn’t have a goal line defense on the field - it was a 5-7 yard rush that put Seahawks at the 2-3yd line. Belicheck even said he thought they’d run against that personnel. 
 

IMO, get to the line and run the ball again. Spike the TO if you don’t score. Have RW who is/was one of the top scrambling play makers, get him out of the pocket on 3rd and throw through EZ for one final play on 4th down. Would have been enough a time.

Also, Russell was late on the pass, so I also put the blame on him for the interception. 

 
hskrpwr13 said:
He has done "good". I wouldn't say great due to sometimes not calling plays that seem complimentary to the flow of the game. However, this offensive moves the chains and puts points on the board. Every possession against Purdue would've ended in points if not for officiating and FG team.
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Those are points that I do not disagree with and that’s why I like Satterfield in the capacity of an analyst.
 

Last season was a mixture of QB play too, I’ll accept that. This year we have one of the best QBs in college. From what I’ve witnessed, Over the span of 17 games, I like the offensive scheme, but I dislike the situational play calling in the redzone and crunch time.

Start winning some close games against T25 teams and then I’ll admit he’s good and that I’m wrong.

 
runningblind said:
We're 15th in rushing defense, with 0 TDs allowed, and 10th in ypc at 2.75.
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We played Colorado (#124 rush offense), Illinois (#98), Purdue (#79), UTEP (#126), and an FCS team. It would be hard not to be a top-rated rush defense with that kind of schedule. Against a good rushing team, the numbers ain't gonna be so pretty. And as it happens, Rutgers is #12...

 
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Toe said:
We played Colorado (#124 rush offense), Illinois (#98), Purdue (#79), UTEP (#126), and an FCS team. It would be hard not to be a top-rated rush defense with that kind of schedule. Against a good rushing team, the numbers ain't gonna be so pretty. And as it happens, Rutgers is #12...
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Don't dump out the  :koolaid2: with the facts.  

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Toe said:
We played Colorado (#124 rush offense), Illinois (#98), Purdue (#79), UTEP (#126), and an FCS team. It would be hard not to be a top-rated rush defense with that kind of schedule. Against a good rushing team, the numbers ain't gonna be so pretty. And as it happens, Rutgers is #12...
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Yeah.  Yeah you've stated my worries.  I like to play the prediction thingy in Contest Crib here at HB.  I held myself back from posting anything because it kept coming around to pretty much what you said there which I agree with and I don't want to "predict" another home loss for us. 

I keep trying to temper that whole thing with our multi-star QB performing well and coming up with 300 yards passing.  Then the penalties come to mind.  One thing I love is the turnover portion of these conversations is pretty much nil this season..  so.. well I can't make up my mind. 

 
Toe said:
We played Colorado (#124 rush offense), Illinois (#98), Purdue (#79), UTEP (#126), and an FCS team. It would be hard not to be a top-rated rush defense with that kind of schedule. Against a good rushing team, the numbers ain't gonna be so pretty. And as it happens, Rutgers is #12...
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Well all that means is we may not be so good against either the run or the pass.  🤔  We shall see! We always do.

 
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One thing I learned, and was reminded of watching Chasing 3.  This was a one score game going into the 4th quarter, and as was stated in the episode.  "You guys decided to not have it be a one score game"

It was lost in the moment a bit, but that is a big step for this team.  The played around with their prey for 3 quarters, and then just stepped on their throat.  

Next step is to stop playing around for three quarters.  But that, as Rhule states it, is "championship level football"  And this team isn't there yet.

 
I probably missed someone else's explanation, but...  Was DR underthrowing long passes on person? Is he not that accurate with deep passes?  :dunno  The DPIs really helped the offense.

Just some concerns that I had with last week.

 
jager said:
I probably missed someone else's explanation, but...  Was DR underthrowing long passes on person? Is he not that accurate with deep passes?  :dunno  The DPIs really helped the offense.

Just some concerns that I had with last week.
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I said the exact same thing to my wife during the game...I definitely seemed intentional, but who knows... By all means, take advantage of it if you are having trouble moving the ball... but I'd much rather hit them in stride for a TD

 
jager said:
I probably missed someone else's explanation, but...  Was DR underthrowing long passes on person? Is he not that accurate with deep passes?  :dunno  The DPIs really helped the offense.

Just some concerns that I had with last week.
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He said the goal was to complete the passes, and they need to be better at it so not specifically trying to get PI.

But I assume he's still intentionally throwing behind the receivers based on whether he thinks they are outrunning the defender. With an intentional underthrow ideally they make the adjustment and catch, but worst case make the defender run through them and get 15 yards. Trying to hit them in stride has a higher potential payoff yardage wise, but more likely to be a clean PBU or incompletion. I do think there were a couple where he should have aired it out and let them try to run under it, but Banks and Neyor haven't really been running by guys so throwing it short and letting them adjust is fine IMO. Now that it's on tape that we will keep doing that, defense may play the underthrow more which will help open up opportunities to try over the top.

 
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