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10_point_buck said:
Martinez has 16 interceptions and 18 fumbles (10 lost) in 16 career games.  If that doesn’t stop, we’ll never have any offensive rhythm or continuity.  Turning this around starts with #2.
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Great post.  Football always starts and stops with the QB.  Great people around the QB makes the QB even better, but for the most part in a game as the QB goes, so goes the team.  

 
olddominionhusker said:
Yes the Oline sucks, but he is missing throws when he has time. He can’t even accurately throw a screen pass at this point. I know he has talent but we can’t just keep running him out there to do this. He needs to sit and figure it out. He flat out sucks right now
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When I said the exact same thing two weeks ago, I was attacked by someone on this board stating that I was being hard on Martinez because he denied my daughter’s advances. I completely agree that Martinez is not playing well and he might get better if he thought that his starting job is at risk...if Frost plays Vedral a few series, may be that will push Martinez to be more competitive. He missed wide open guys today and he threw the ball atrociously the entire game. It is time for him to start feeling the heat of competing with the other QBs. I do not understand Frost unwillingness to put Vedral in when Martinez is struggling.

 
Martinez turns the ball over 24/7. Washington gets hurt every other play. Mills can't hang onto the ball. The offensive line cannot get a push. We don't throw to the tight ends. Not a good recipe for scoring points. 

 
BIG ERN said:
Martinez turns the ball over 24/7. Washington gets hurt every other play. Mills can't hang onto the ball. The offensive line cannot get a push. We don't throw to the tight ends. Not a good recipe for scoring points. 
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Did he fumble in this game?

 
I posted this on a different thread, but it starts with recruiting for the trenches.  Once we recruit Big 10 lines on the O-line and D-line, things will change.  We have enough skill position players to compete, but they can't compete if our QB can't throw to them.  We have RB's who can run the ball, but not with no holes to run thru.  We have decent DB's and LB's, but no D line to let them do there thing.

It wouldn't mattered tonight if we had Tom Brady and Jerry Rice, not enough time to throw the ball down field.

 
I believe by the time we recruit our what we need in the trenches A Martinez will just be a program memory.  Seems like thats been the whole theme with the big10 since weve been here.  We may have had lights out QBs but they never get the time they need to make a play because the lines fold.

 
Nebhawk said:
I posted this on a different thread, but it starts with recruiting for the trenches.  Once we recruit Big 10 lines on the O-line and D-line, things will change.  We have enough skill position players to compete, but they can't compete if our QB can't throw to them.  We have RB's who can run the ball, but not with no holes to run thru.  We have decent DB's and LB's, but no D line to let them do there thing.

It wouldn't mattered tonight if we had Tom Brady and Jerry Rice, not enough time to throw the ball down field.
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Tom Brady wouldn’t have thrown three interceptions.  And he would have hit Wan’Dale for a touchdown on the second interception AM threw. Brady would have also hit many of the backs and TE in stride allowing them to run after catch.  Although I must admit, Brady would not have broken off a 50 yard run!

 
Nebhawk said:
I posted this on a different thread, but it starts with recruiting for the trenches.  Once we recruit Big 10 lines on the O-line and D-line, things will change.  We have enough skill position players to compete, but they can't compete if our QB can't throw to them.  We have RB's who can run the ball, but not with no holes to run thru.  We have decent DB's and LB's, but no D line to let them do there thing.

It wouldn't mattered tonight if we had Tom Brady and Jerry Rice, not enough time to throw the ball down field.
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Hold up. You're telling me the 3 interceptions AMart tossed tonight were somehow on the line?

He took a lot of heat all night, but he only the first one could be blamed on the OL. Even then AM didn't lead Wandale enough and got picked on what was probably PI.

The 2nd INT was a touchdown if he leads Wandale toward the sideline instead of throwing it over his head.

The last pick was complete on AM. There was no one even close to where he threw the ball.

Sucks, but with games like this, there's a lot of blame to go around. AM was atrocious in his own right.

 
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