Racism - It's a real thing.

I understand this and I'm sure there was some racial stereotyping when making this marketing choice.

However, I always just looked at it as a woman who seemed like a loving and caring person who could make great pancakes with her syrup.  I honestly never really thought about her being black.




She's clearly been redesigned several times to not look like a racist's interpretation of a Black woman. The current version seems totally fine. This is more about the history than the current iteration. Maybe people shouldn't care about origins as much as they do, I don't know.

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I've heard of people having issues with this for a long time. Wikipedia has some good info:

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Aunt Jemima is based on the common stereotype of the mammy archetype, a character in minstrel shows in the late 1800s. Her skin is dark and dewy, with a pearly white smile. She wears a scarf over her head and a polka dot dress with a white collar, similar to the common attire and physical features of "mammy" characters throughout history.[12] A character named "Aunt Jemima" appeared on the stage in Washington, D.C., as early as 1864.[13]
 

The inspiration for Aunt Jemima was Billy Kersands' American-style minstrelsy/vaudeville song "Old Aunt Jemima", written in 1875. Rutt reportedly saw a minstrel show featuring the "Old Aunt Jemima" song in the fall of 1889, presented by blackface performers identified by Arthur F. Marquette as "Baker & Farrell".[8] Marquette recounts that the actor playing Aunt Jemima wore an apron and kerchief, and Rutt appropriated this Aunt Jemima character to market the Pearl Milling Company pancake mix in late 1889.[8][14]
 

However, Doris Witt[who?] was unable to confirm Marquette's account. Witt suggests that Rutt might have witnessed a performance by the vaudeville performer Pete F. Baker, who played a character described in newspapers of that era as "Aunt Jemima". If this is correct, the original inspiration for the Aunt Jemima character was a white male in blackface, whom some have described as a German immigrant.[10]
 
 
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I understand this and I'm sure there was some racial stereotyping when making this marketing choice.

However, I always just looked at it as a woman who seemed like a loving and caring person who could make great pancakes with her syrup.  I honestly never really thought about her being black.
Anecdotally about Aunt Jemima: I once conducted a workplace investigation triggered in part by a white employee calling a black employee "Aunt Jemima." Everyone I met with during the investigation, white or black, understood that calling someone that name was a reference to a racial stereotype and that it was inappropriate, although not everyone knew the history. But it is an example of something that may not be obviously offensive to everyone, but can be used in such a way that it is.

That investigation uncovered several employees, including managers, who had used various subtle forms of racism often enough in the workplace that it began to create a hostile environment for the black workers. People ended up getting disciplined and even fired, and rightfully so.

 
Anecdotally about Aunt Jemima: I once conducted a workplace investigation triggered in part by a white employee calling a black employee "Aunt Jemima." Everyone I met with during the investigation, white or black, understood that calling someone that name was a reference to a racial stereotype and that it was inappropriate, although not everyone knew the history. But it is an example of something that may not be obviously offensive to everyone, but can be used in such a way that it is.

That investigation uncovered several employees, including managers, who had used various subtle forms of racism often enough in the workplace that it began to create a hostile environment for the black workers. People ended up getting disciplined and even fired, and rightfully so.
Oh...I've heard the "aunt Jamima" comment before and that's racist.  But, I'm just saying that I've never had even a feeling of racism by the name or logo.  But, that's just my opinion and how I've felt about the product.

 
My favorite place for breakfast when in Omaha. 

I heard it was the owners son. I also read that cops had to come help employees through the raucous protesters outside on Sunday. 

All because of a long time menu item named after Robert E Lee I understand...

 
BlitzFirst said:
Are you black? (serious question...not trying to be confrontational)
No....and I’m sure the next comment will be....then how do you know if it’s racist?

i can’t. I’m just saying that I’ve only viewed aunt Jamima as a warm loving person that makes pancakes. Not...that black lady that serves me pancakes. 

 
BlitzFirst said:
That's too bad. 

I mean I agree, it's not your call but society is calling it and you should at least be able to see why it's being called out (and be able to disagree or agree).

Saying you see no racism in a racist thing is whitewashing an issue...which is part of the overall problem of systemic racism.  I encourage you to watch the video I posted earlier in the thread which discusses this thing.  If you watch, please pay specific attention to the portion of the video in which they discuss the phrase "I don't see color when I look at you"...which illustrates white washing an issue from the perspective of a non-black person.  Perhaps then you can then be in a position to state, "I see the racism in this racist thing even though I have no perspective of it and think only of pancakes when I see it".  If not, once again...it's really too bad that you can't see the racism in a racist thing :(
I apologize.  I'm not really in the mood today to argue.  When I say "no", I'm talking about the advertising and product I grew up with.  I have no doubt there were racist issues around the advertising campaign and I can see why a black person might think it's racist.

So, I'll just leave it at that and have a nice day.

PS....my mood isn't because of this, so please don't take it that way.

 
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