RB Jarvis Giles

father5 said:
illnino said:
father5 said:
HuskerRob said:
GrandAvenue said:
we need him
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Do we? With Roy and Q being Soph's, and Mendoza being a RFr, we have a lot of young talent at running back. He wouldn't become the main back until his junior year, granted that Roy and Q stay for their senior seasons. I want Giles to become a Husker just as much as everyone else, as he is an electrifying playmaker that could really help our offense, but I wouldn't be discouraged one bit if we didn't land a "big-time" running back commit in this class. I think that next year is the year where we land at least 1 "big time" RB.

Just my 2 cents.
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OMG are you kidding? Roy is a very good RB. Castille has been a disappointment to say the least. Mendoza has done very little to be evaluated on. When we have the chance to recruit a player who has the kind of potential that Giles has we have to put forth our best effort. The reason we recruit players like him is to try to hit one that turns into a killer. If Giles turned into a player like that (1st or 2nd round talent in the draft kind of player) do you honestly thing it would be his junior year before he was the "main back"? If/when we get a player with that kind of talent you can bet your last dollar he will be a contributor immediately.

I am not at all comfortable with what we will have at RB next year and any chance we have at players like Giles, McBurse, and Burkhead need to be given a 100% effort, IMO.
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I thought we were looking pretty good at the RB position next year
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Not at all. Helu is the only returning rb on this roster who has really shown anything. Even though he has been the most explosive runner by far this year he still isn't getting the kind of carries his play has been deserving of. That makes me worried about whether or not there is something the coaches see that we don't? Castille has been a big disappointment so far. For such a big guy he doesn't run with much authority and is even a liability in the short yardage running game. Oh, and serious fumble problems to boot. Mendoza might be a player next year, but he is largely unproven. He showed well against K-State, but who didn't? K-State has been everyone's whoopin boy this year. Mendoza is also a pretty small guy. As far as Okafor goes, who knows. I've heard bad things about him and good things. He hasn't seen the field so there's no way to make a judgement.

This is major college football. If we go into next year with Helu as our top back and Castille as the main backup we could be an injury away from a pretty sorry looking backfield. Maybe you guys see something I don't. Seriously, sell me on next year's backfield and I will change my tune, but I think we are in desperate need of more talent.
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The same could be said for any other major college football team about them being "one injury away" from a sorry backfield...unless youre USC.. <_< Anyway, I feel next years backfield will be very productive, we have a stable of horses ready to go, with our feature back being Helu. Helu has shown flashes of brilliance over the past 3 games, accounting for 5 scores, and will only continue to get better. While castille causes most of us to hold our breath when he is running, he still has all the capabilities of being a good back. He has great speed for his frame, and he can straight up lay the hurt. If we can cut out the fumbling problems he will be just fine. As far as Mendoza...he played well against Gay-State, but then again, it is Gay-State..it will be tough to tell until the spring on how he looks.

I wouldn't be worried at all about our backfield, they will be just fine for years to come...especially if we land Jarvis!

GBR!

 
The Maudfather said:
father5 said:
illnino said:
father5 said:
HuskerRob said:
GrandAvenue said:
we need him
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Do we? With Roy and Q being Soph's, and Mendoza being a RFr, we have a lot of young talent at running back. He wouldn't become the main back until his junior year, granted that Roy and Q stay for their senior seasons. I want Giles to become a Husker just as much as everyone else, as he is an electrifying playmaker that could really help our offense, but I wouldn't be discouraged one bit if we didn't land a "big-time" running back commit in this class. I think that next year is the year where we land at least 1 "big time" RB.

Just my 2 cents.
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OMG are you kidding? Roy is a very good RB. Castille has been a disappointment to say the least. Mendoza has done very little to be evaluated on. When we have the chance to recruit a player who has the kind of potential that Giles has we have to put forth our best effort. The reason we recruit players like him is to try to hit one that turns into a killer. If Giles turned into a player like that (1st or 2nd round talent in the draft kind of player) do you honestly thing it would be his junior year before he was the "main back"? If/when we get a player with that kind of talent you can bet your last dollar he will be a contributor immediately.

I am not at all comfortable with what we will have at RB next year and any chance we have at players like Giles, McBurse, and Burkhead need to be given a 100% effort, IMO.
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I thought we were looking pretty good at the RB position next year
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Not at all. Helu is the only returning rb on this roster who has really shown anything. Even though he has been the most explosive runner by far this year he still isn't getting the kind of carries his play has been deserving of. That makes me worried about whether or not there is something the coaches see that we don't? Castille has been a big disappointment so far. For such a big guy he doesn't run with much authority and is even a liability in the short yardage running game. Oh, and serious fumble problems to boot. Mendoza might be a player next year, but he is largely unproven. He showed well against K-State, but who didn't? K-State has been everyone's whoopin boy this year. Mendoza is also a pretty small guy. As far as Okafor goes, who knows. I've heard bad things about him and good things. He hasn't seen the field so there's no way to make a judgement.

This is major college football. If we go into next year with Helu as our top back and Castille as the main backup we could be an injury away from a pretty sorry looking backfield. Maybe you guys see something I don't. Seriously, sell me on next year's backfield and I will change my tune, but I think we are in desperate need of more talent.
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The same could be said for any other major college football team about them being "one injury away" from a sorry backfield...unless youre USC.. <_< Anyway, I feel next years backfield will be very productive, we have a stable of horses ready to go, with our feature back being Helu. Helu has shown flashes of brilliance over the past 3 games, accounting for 5 scores, and will only continue to get better. While castille causes most of us to hold our breath when he is running, he still has all the capabilities of being a good back. He has great speed for his frame, and he can straight up lay the hurt. If we can cut out the fumbling problems he will be just fine. As far as Mendoza...he played well against Gay-State, but then again, it is Gay-State..it will be tough to tell until the spring on how he looks.

I wouldn't be worried at all about our backfield, they will be just fine for years to come...especially if we land Jarvis!

GBR!
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Any stud back programs, sure. Look at USC and Wisconsin. They could have 2 injuries a piece and still have a productive back in the backfield. The spread is making it much more common for backs to be a pivotal force on the field. Traditional offenses did not rely on them in the typical fashion. Then there's always the Barry Sanders of the world who just own face.

 
And maybe Boston College later:

Under Armour All-American running back Jarvis Giles (Tampa, Fla./Gaither) remains committed to Tennessee, but has scheduled an official visit to South Carolina for this weekend. Giles is weighing his options after Vols head coach Phillip Fulmer decided to accept the university's decision not to retain him as head football coach on Monday.
Giles spoke with his Vols recruiter, running backs coach Stan Drayton, yesterday. Drayton, who recruited the Tampa area for Florida before joining the Tennessee staff this season, was a big part of Giles' decision to commit to UT.

"I spoke with coach Drayton and he's not sure what is going to happen yet," Giles said. "He told me to just call him and he would keep me updated. He thinks that whoever the new coach is, he will keep him and coach (Latrell Scott, the Vols' wide receivers coach) because they are recruiters and all that."

Giles plans to graduate from high school in December and enroll at the school of his choice in January. The Gamecocks and head coach Steve Spurrier are in dire need of a player to jumpstart their running game, which ranks last in the Southeastern Conference for the second consecutive season.

Giles also has mentioned Boston College as a potential visit.
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The same could be said for any other major college football team about them being "one injury away" from a sorry backfield...unless youre USC.. <_< Anyway, I feel next years backfield will be very productive, we have a stable of horses ready to go, with our feature back being Helu. Helu has shown flashes of brilliance over the past 3 games, accounting for 5 scores, and will only continue to get better. While castille causes most of us to hold our breath when he is running, he still has all the capabilities of being a good back. He has great speed for his frame, and he can straight up lay the hurt. If we can cut out the fumbling problems he will be just fine. As far as Mendoza...he played well against Gay-State, but then again, it is Gay-State..it will be tough to tell until the spring on how he looks.
I wouldn't be worried at all about our backfield, they will be just fine for years to come...especially if we land Jarvis!

GBR!
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I disagree with this statement. For a big back he has repeatedly shown an inability to produce in short yardage situations. In fact, I think he runs soft for an average sized back. Outside of Helu, the others on our roster are largely unproven. That's what leads me to be uncomfortable.

 
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BIGREDIOWAN said:
Ohio Pete said:
Allen said:
We need to get him on a visit....
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OK. :)

Rivals (by way of recruiting planet) has him still committed to Tenn. but visiting Nebraska, South Carolina, Illinois, and Ole Miss.
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:clap Outstanding let's get this guy N!!!!
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:clap :koolaid2: :koolaid2: :yeah

Having Tennessee losing to a team as terrible as Wyoming has to look really bad to big name recruits. There is no way they should lose to a team like Wyoming especially at home. Wyomings other wins are vs Ohio (2-8), vs North Dakota State (FCS), and San Diego State (1-9). Ouch.

 
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father5 said:
illnino said:
father5 said:
As far as Okafor goes, who knows. I've heard bad things about him and good things.
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What bad things have you heard about Okafor? I havn't heard any news about him for a long time(spring maybe?)
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Nothing formal, all rumor stuff. Rumors like he's been a disappointment so far. I saw the kid play a lot in high school and I thought he was the real deal so who knows.
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I hope you're right

 
huskersrule95 said:
Having Tennessee losing to a team as terrible as Wyoming has to look really bad to big name recruits. There is no way they should lose to a team like Wyoming especially at home. Wyomings other wins are vs Ohio (2-8), vs North Dakota State (FCS), and San Diego State (1-9). Ouch.
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Yeah, isn't Wyoming's coach on the hot seat or leaving after the season too? Really embarrassing loss.

 
#2 top "home run" threat according to ESPN/Scouts Inc.:

Top home run threats
What Scouts Inc. looks for: Simply put, a home run threat can take it to the house on any given carry. Excellent top-end speed and the extra gear needed to separate from faster defensive backs in the second level are required. Give these guys a small crease or the edge on the perimeter and they can take it the distance. A home run threat has to be elusive; most big runs stem from breaking an initial tackle or making the first defender miss in space.

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2. Jarvis Giles (Tampa, Fla./Gaither)

In terms of pure acceleration and burst through the second level, it's hard to find a better running back prospect than Giles. He is sudden through traffic, explosive and cuts decisively at full speed, rarely gearing down. Giles changes speeds well to avoid and separate from faster pursuing defensive backs. He may have better burst through the hole than true top-end speed, but Giles has big-play ability written all over him at the next level.
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Ohio Pete said:
huskersrule95 said:
Having Tennessee losing to a team as terrible as Wyoming has to look really bad to big name recruits. There is no way they should lose to a team like Wyoming especially at home. Wyomings other wins are vs Ohio (2-8), vs North Dakota State (FCS), and San Diego State (1-9). Ouch.
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Yeah, isn't Wyoming's coach on the hot seat or leaving after the season too? Really embarrassing loss.
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Yea, while that site said that he would return next year they also had them getting a 6-6 record which means they still have to win their last 2 games. Of course this win may have just saved the Wyoming coaches job for one more year.

 
From interviews I have read with Jarvis, it seems as if our coaches are not jumping on this chance like some schools are. He has said that Nebraska calls him, but not as frequently as other schools. Hopefully we are not being lackadaisical on this...

 
father is pretty much right. Not so glowing reports on Okafor so far this year. Even some rumors of a move to LB, but I don't know how valid those rumors are.

After Mendoza it is completely up in the air about who would be next in line at RB. Some PT to definitely to be had by any RB who comes in here.

 
BigWillie said:
father is pretty much right. Not so glowing reports on Okafor so far this year. Even some rumors of a move to LB, but I don't know how valid those rumors are.

After Mendoza it is completely up in the air about who would be next in line at RB. Some PT to definitely to be had by any RB who comes in here.
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Is it Lester Ward and then walkons? What position is Kyler Reed? Or are you saying nobody after Mendoza has shown anything thus far so any recruit worth his star rating would be in the mix next year?

 
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