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[Archy1221]

It's very telling you continue to dodge and weave but not address that Republicans have admitted to voter suppression.

If the voting laws are legal and there is plenty of time allowed for people to vote, i.e...polls open weeks prior to Election Day, Voter ID is free, and everyone plays by the same rules on a mid-term election that’s 1 1/2 years away, a Presidential election that’s 3 1/2 years away so people have plenty of time to figure things out it’s not my fault nor any politicians fault if people choose to suppress their own vote.  Get mad at those individuals.  If the voting changes are deemed illegal then that’s a different story.  If states charge for the voter ID, I will disagree with that.  
 

I mean, do people need their hand held to get to the voting booth now a days so it’s not considered voter suppression.  Maybe you should ask people why they want to suppress their own vote by not getting to the voting booth when they have 3 weeks to do so and 3 1/2 years to plan for it.  
I’m sure that was telling. 

 

[knapplc]

If the voting laws are legal and there is plenty of time allowed for people to vote, i.e...polls open weeks prior to Election Day, Voter ID is free, and everyone plays by the same rules on a mid-term election that’s 1 1/2 years away, a Presidential election that’s 3 1/2 years away so people have plenty of time to figure things out it’s not my fault nor any politicians fault if people choose to suppress their own vote.  Get mad at those individuals.  If the voting changes are deemed illegal then that’s a different story.  If states charge for the voter ID, I will disagree with that.  
 

I mean, do people need their hand held to get to the voting booth now a days so it’s not considered voter suppression.  Maybe you should ask people why they want to suppress their own vote by not getting to the voting booth when they have 3 weeks to do so and 3 1/2 years to plan for it.  
I’m sure that was telling. 

They've specifically said that their intent is voter suppression. I've provided quotes explicitly stating that's the intent behind these changes. 

 

[funhusker]

If the voting laws are legal and there is plenty of time allowed for people to vote, i.e...polls open weeks prior to Election Day, Voter ID is free, and everyone plays by the same rules on a mid-term election that’s 1 1/2 years away, a Presidential election that’s 3 1/2 years away so people have plenty of time to figure things out it’s not my fault nor any politicians fault if people choose to suppress their own vote.  Get mad at those individuals.  If the voting changes are deemed illegal then that’s a different story.  If states charge for the voter ID, I will disagree with that.  
 

I mean, do people need their hand held to get to the voting booth now a days so it’s not considered voter suppression.  Maybe you should ask people why they want to suppress their own vote by not getting to the voting booth when they have 3 weeks to do so and 3 1/2 years to plan for it.  
I’m sure that was telling. 

I thought you were for making voting easier?  Maybe I’m getting you confused with another poster.

If you are, in fact, the person that would be okay with making Election Day a holiday and allow weekend voting, how are you not against making voting harder?  Even if it makes it harder for everyone equally...

What problems will these equally added hoops solve?

 

[RedDenver]

If the voting laws are legal and there is plenty of time allowed for people to vote, i.e...polls open weeks prior to Election Day, Voter ID is free, and everyone plays by the same rules on a mid-term election that’s 1 1/2 years away, a Presidential election that’s 3 1/2 years away so people have plenty of time to figure things out it’s not my fault nor any politicians fault if people choose to suppress their own vote.  Get mad at those individuals.  If the voting changes are deemed illegal then that’s a different story.  If states charge for the voter ID, I will disagree with that.  
 

I mean, do people need their hand held to get to the voting booth now a days so it’s not considered voter suppression.  Maybe you should ask people why they want to suppress their own vote by not getting to the voting booth when they have 3 weeks to do so and 3 1/2 years to plan for it.  
I’m sure that was telling. 

So still not addressing the intent stated by the party you're desperately defending?

 

[Archy1221]

I thought you were for making voting easier?  Maybe I’m getting you confused with another poster.

If you are, in fact, the person that would be okay with making Election Day a holiday and allow weekend voting, how are you not against making voting harder?  Even if it makes it harder for everyone equally...

What problems will these equally added hoops solve?

I would vote yes on election holiday, though if it’s not I don’t really care as I find time to vote regardless

I would vote yes on weekend voting if the county election board deemed they could afford it and find workers.  Either way I would find time to vote 

Im for following whatever legal State voting laws there are.  
 

What problems are being solved: on those two issues specifically only thing I can think of is if there are monetary and personnel challenges and that there has to be some timeframe set.  Otherwise, why not just open polling places 24 hrs a day 7 days a week the day after the conventions? 
 

Voter ID and signature match laws solve other problems. 

 

[Archy1221]

So still not addressing the intent stated by the party you're desperately defending?

I’m certainly not desperate, and have already stated my thoughts probably four times.  Feel free to keep asking though.  I’m quite certain Republicans would love less Democrats to show up to vote for the Democrat candidate as I’m quite certain that Democrats would love less Republicans to show up to vote for the Republican candidate. 
If Democrats want to suppress their own vote by not showing up sometime in a three to five week period then that’s on them.  Same goes for any Republican.  
 

It isn’t hard to vote.  

 

[knapplc]

It isn’t hard to vote.  

The long lines to vote in Georgia indicate this is not true.

 

[RedDenver]

I’m certainly not desperate, and have already stated my thoughts probably four times.

Sure, sure.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

If the voting laws are legal and there is plenty of time allowed for people to vote, i.e...polls open weeks prior to Election Day, Voter ID is free, and everyone plays by the same rules on a mid-term election that’s 1 1/2 years away, a Presidential election that’s 3 1/2 years away so people have plenty of time to figure things out it’s not my fault nor any politicians fault if people choose to suppress their own vote.  Get mad at those individuals.  If the voting changes are deemed illegal then that’s a different story.  If states charge for the voter ID, I will disagree with that.  
 

I mean, do people need their hand held to get to the voting booth now a days so it’s not considered voter suppression.  Maybe you should ask people why they want to suppress their own vote by not getting to the voting booth when they have 3 weeks to do so and 3 1/2 years to plan for it.  
I’m sure that was telling. 

So now it's the people suppressing their own vote.

Lovely. 

Seriously. You're not reading any of these links, are you.

But sorta to your point, I think we need to congratulate the people who did in fact research the voting options, advised people of the barriers being put in their way, and helped  people to turn out in record numbers to reclaim the Presidency and Senate. People still have some  power. For now. And that's what clearly pisses off your team. 

Not (necessarily) racially related but relevant: 17 GOP controlled states sought to over-turn the 2020 election results based on zero evidence, and two have initiated a process where the state legislature can override its own voters. So maybe voter suppression is a moot point if you're in a position to ignore the voters and evidence regardless.

These are your people. What they're doing may technically be legal, given a manipulation of the law, but I can't think of an argument where it's not horribly un-ethical and un-American at the core.  

 

[funhusker]

I would vote yes on election holiday, though if it’s not I don’t really care as I find time to vote regardless

I would vote yes on weekend voting if the county election board deemed they could afford it and find workers.  Either way I would find time to vote 

Im for following whatever legal State voting laws there are.  
 

What problems are being solved: on those two issues specifically only thing I can think of is if there are monetary and personnel challenges and that there has to be some timeframe set.  Otherwise, why not just open polling places 24 hrs a day 7 days a week the day after the conventions? 
 

Voter ID and signature match laws solve other problems. 

Sounds awesome.  We could call it “Mail-in ballots” or something catchy.  Imagine the ease of getting a ballot in your mailbox, filling it out at your convenience , ,even research candidates and ballot measures.  When your done, put it back in your mailbox or drop off at a specified location if you choose.

something like that would just be great!

 

[Archy1221]

The long lines to vote in Georgia indicate this is not true.

On the very first day of voting.  Check out the news reports of those same precincts two days later.  
 

Now, as far as who to blame, check on what county those voting locations are in.  Next maybe check what party controls the voting decisions in those counties. 

Sure, sure.

Thank you for finally understanding 

 

[knapplc]

Now, as far as who to blame, check on what county those voting locations are in.  Next maybe check what party controls the voting decisions in those counties. 

We covered this months ago. It is no more true now than when you were shown it was a red herring then. 

 

[knapplc]

Sounds awesome.  We could call it “Mail-in ballots” or something catchy.  Imagine the ease of getting a ballot in your mailbox, filling it out at your convenience , ,even research candidates and ballot measures.  When your done, put it back in your mailbox or drop off at a specified location if you choose.

something like that would just be great!

Who would be against such a thing? It's logical, it's easy, it's affordable, it's secure. 

Why would anyone oppose this? Why would anyone create a false narrative around such voting measures to the extent they may have cost their party the Senate and the White House?

SUCH A MYSTERY who is behind efforts to make voting harder. SO WEIRD.

 

[Archy1221]

people to turn out in record numbers

So there was suppression or no suppression?  Seems the raw numbers show no.  
 

Seriously. You're not reading any of these links, are you.

I am.  I wonder though, if you are reading and researching into who the decision makers are to close polling locations in PA and GA which people on here have complained about but don’t seem to know the reason why.  You’re not looking at any of that are you.  
 

17 GOP controlled states sought to over-turn the 2020 election results based on zero evidence

Some of the lawsuits were based on issues like what’s shown below.  PA is another case where the AG overstepped the legislature in the name of COVID generating a lawsuit. 
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2021/03/court-invalidates-michigan-rule-on-how-to-verify-absentee-ballot-application-signatures.html

Hope your team continues to figure out how to vote in these record setting times of voting. 

 

[Archy1221]

Sounds awesome.  We could call it “Mail-in ballots” or something catchy.  Imagine the ease of getting a ballot in your mailbox, filling it out at your convenience , ,even research candidates and ballot measures.  When your done, put it back in your mailbox or drop off at a specified location if you choose.

something like that would just be great!

Sure, as long as you prove you are a valid registered voter.  Have at it.  
 

The snark was awesome by the way :thumbs  Pro level 

We covered this months ago. It is no more true now than when you were shown it was a red herring then. 

You don’t believe Fulton County runs it’s own election?