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Yeah, I got this as well. Safe to say it's being passed around.

My response (9:08 Pacific).

Okay, Eric is not a homophobe -- that's a bit far. However, it was a poor attempt at levity on his part.

Here's what I'm reading, RR: there was an issue with calling people out, and how people were handling interacting with people they didn't like. (This seems to be at the crux of all problems online communities face, doesn't it? Sometimes I wonder why we can't all get along easier. And mostly, people seem to...) Eric made a good faith effort at addressing this, and it appeared to be well received initially. Then he said something that set SW off, and SW requested that his account be deleted.

It's a real shame, because it wasn't related to the issue in the first place, and the manner SW chose to address it was first by telling the admin working with him to f--- off, and then by taking it out on the rest of the board. Like I said, a shame.

As for the bannings themselves, this came from discussions that happened above the moderator level. The appeals will have to go there, and I know, I know, they don't seem to be responding that quickly, but as tense as it is, there's really nothing to do but wait. Allow them the time to respond properly to whatever appeals, questions, whatever else they are being asked by these three. I do hope they will get their answers soon enough; they are not intentionally being left in the dark, and ought not be left hanging. Keep in mind they are dealing with volunteer staff who have had and maybe still have many other things both board related, and in real life, that could be getting in the way of a reply.

Please don't ask any of the mods about these guys anymore, or about unbanning them. None of us on the mod team know if they are considered as having any chances remaining or if that was it. That, I suppose, is (or was...) partly up to them, and partly up to the admins based on what they had seen so far from their responses.
I hope that wasn't out of line. Want to leave the message about the bannings, ultimately, to Eric. But maybe simmer people down a little.

As for the comments, as long as they're in the Woodshed, I guess we can just let them vent. Coming down heavy-handed would not be a good look anyway. When there's a statement to be had, they can respond and vent some more, but it should die down by then once A) people understand what it's about -- us, needing members to handle people they dislike without causing problems themselves, and B) AtB, SW, and Polo have gotten their say in and responses to their e-mails and have much less of a martyrdom card to play. Hopefully, that's all sooner than later.

If there's someone who really wants it -- dumping this all over the forums, etc. Then we can politely entreat them not to fall on their sword over this, and let them hang by their own rope in the end if they truly intend to go full committal down that road. If they want to be a martyr, the more chances they are given, the less they are able to claim it.

 
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Not sure what to make of this but @RotoRiot just posted the following status update:

RotoRiot

Here it goes, im sure this will be the last time you see me. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-ArHNl6VilV6Pw6TRuJOKCQytbKCh4y4S5cpLoKGVgA/edit?usp=docslist_api

I grabbed a copy of the doc he posted just in case it disappears.

I don't have a problem with this.

  1. I think I was polite.
  2. Tried to be funny with the Seinfeld reference.
  3. This makes it very clear this Shawn guy asked to be banned
  4. This shows this Shawn guy tries to bully people.

Glad you brought this up and posted it, never would have caught it. Don't worry about these things, worry about the Huskers and who they get to sign their letter of intent.
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The less attention you give these types of people/posts the less they happen. Now if I get threats, I call the cops.

Remember they are all nameless, faceless, want-to-be internet personalities, discuss the latest LB recruiting offer.

All PM's to you about this, get forwarded to me, worry about the Huskers and keep these members updated on what defense we might run.

Thanks for keeping all of us updated.

 
Yeah, I got this as well. Safe to say it's being passed around.

My response (9:08 Pacific).

Okay, Eric is not a homophobe -- that's a bit far. However, it was a poor attempt at levity on his part.

Here's what I'm reading, RR: there was an issue with calling people out, and how people were handling interacting with people they didn't like. (This seems to be at the crux of all problems online communities face, doesn't it? Sometimes I wonder why we can't all get along easier. And mostly, people seem to...) Eric made a good faith effort at addressing this, and it appeared to be well received initially. Then he said something that set SW off, and SW requested that his account be deleted.

It's a real shame, because it wasn't related to the issue in the first place, and the manner SW chose to address it was first by telling the admin working with him to f--- off, and then by taking it out on the rest of the board. Like I said, a shame.

As for the bannings themselves, this came from discussions that happened above the moderator level. The appeals will have to go there, and I know, I know, they don't seem to be responding that quickly, but as tense as it is, there's really nothing to do but wait. Allow them the time to respond properly to whatever appeals, questions, whatever else they are being asked by these three. I do hope they will get their answers soon enough; they are not intentionally being left in the dark, and ought not be left hanging. Keep in mind they are dealing with volunteer staff who have had and maybe still have many other things both board related, and in real life, that could be getting in the way of a reply.

Please don't ask any of the mods about these guys anymore, or about unbanning them. None of us on the mod team know if they are considered as having any chances remaining or if that was it. That, I suppose, is (or was...) partly up to them, and partly up to the admins based on what they had seen so far from their responses.
I hope that wasn't out of line. Want to leave the message about the bannings, ultimately, to Eric. But maybe simmer people down a little.

As for the comments, as long as they're in the Woodshed, I guess we can just let them vent. Coming down heavy-handed would not be a good look anyway. When there's a statement to be had, they can respond and vent some more, but it should die down by then once A) people understand what it's about -- us, needing members to handle people they dislike without causing problems themselves, and B) AtB, SW, and Polo have gotten their say in and responses to their e-mails and have much less of a martyrdom card to play. Hopefully, that's all sooner than later.

If there's someone who really wants it -- dumping this all over the forums, etc. Then we can politely entreat them not to fall on their sword over this, and let them hang by their own rope in the end if they truly intend to go full committal down that road. If they want to be a martyr, the more chances they are given, the less they are able to claim it.
You did nothing wrong at all. I appreciate the help and support. You guys are the best.

Remember Husker football is what got us here.

 
Some other highlights from the now famous "PM."

I decide to post all of this because I didn't want any of you to fill in the blanks of what might have happened. it's only human nature, nothing wrong with that.
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Feel free to ask me any questions. Nothing is off the table.


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Sent 09 January 2015 - 07:40 PM

ShawnWatson, on 09 Jan 2015 - 6:54 PM, said:

Just delete my account if you are going to be a homophobic piece of sh#t. f#*k you.
Oh stop... You don't even know me. I'm a nameless/faceless person on a message board. I'm trying to keep thinks lighthearted. Regardless, let me know if you really want me to delete your account.
 
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Sent 09 January 2015 - 07:42 PM

ShawnWatson, on 09 Jan 2015 - 6:54 PM, said:

Just delete my account if you are going to be a homophobic piece of sh#t. f#*k you.
Also some people are taking it as an attack. Again take a night and let me know your decision.


 
I asked 4 more times if he wanted me to delete his account. He refuses to give me a straight answer, instead he thought it was best to call me names.

 
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Sent 10 January 2015 - 06:05 PM

ShawnWatson, on 10 Jan 2015 - 5:44 PM, said:

Eric the Red, on 10 Jan 2015 - 5:18 PM, said:

ShawnWatson, on 10 Jan 2015 - 5:02 PM, said:

what decision?
Am I deleting your account or not?
My bank account?
Not sure why we're struggling here (although I'm quite sure you know). You said, "go delete my account if your going to be a homophobic piece of sh#t." Then you told me to go "f#*k myself." Several posts later you reminded me again to go "f#*k myself."

I'm merely trying to provide good customer service and help you with your decision. I haven't changed, so according to you I'm still a "homophobic piece of sh#t." So should I delete your account? I'm not going to ban you, I don't need the power trip. I have plenty of things in my life for that. In fact, I can't remember the last time I did ban someone. After researching, I actually suspended someone for two weeks over 2 years ago. It's just not my style. If you don't want to be here, please let me know and I'll be happy delete your account and stop the emails.

You know why I think you can't decide... your so deathly scared of what life will be like without Huskerboard. If I felt someone was such a horrible person as you claim I am, even though you have never met me, why would you ever patronize their board? You simply love it here so much. It's your life. I hope you stay, I enjoy your posts.

Please let me know how I can proceed your account. Thanks Eric


 
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