** Scott Frost megathread all things SF***

[Enhance]

Oh there's plenty of evidence that Frost is as close to a sure thing as you'll ever find, if you're willing to look at it.  Especially for Nebraska.

Plenty of people are looking 'at it.' Coyly suggesting they don't understand or somehow have blinders on is presumptuous and imperious.

I also find this phrasing lacking in substance - "there's plenty of evidence that Frost is as close to a sure thing as you'll ever find." It lacks commitment. Frost is building himself as a potential great hire for a school in the future, but this reverent pedestal he's being put on is silly.

 

[junior4949]

Since we're not supposed to start any new Scotty Frost threads, I'll ask the question here & hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle...

What would contract offer would you consider fair... AND....

What contract offer would you offer Frost in order to try and get him here in Lincoln? (assuming that's the coach you want)

How many years would you offer? How much base salary per year(guaranteed cash)? How many bonuses, and for what?

Feel free to throw in other coaches, too... I just finished midterms, and I'm bored.

A contract offer that is fair would be fair market value.  Given that Frost and Tom Herman's resumes are comparable, we'd have to start there.  Texas gave Herman a five year contract with a base salary of five million.  Apparently, this is the fair market and Frost has quite a bit of leverage. 

 

[Isle of View]

Plenty of people are looking 'at it.' Coyly suggesting they don't understand or somehow have blinders on is presumptuous and imperious.

I also find this phrasing lacking in substance - "there's plenty of evidence that Frost is as close to a sure thing as you'll ever find." It lacks commitment. Frost is building himself as a potential great hire for a school in the future, but this reverent pedestal he's being put on is silly.

Maybe I have a gift.  He is a sure thing.  Bookmark my post.  We'll revisit it in a couple years.

 

[Enhance]

I wouldn't say I'm a Frost or bust guy; but I will say we are lucky that one of the hottest young coaches right now happens to be a former NU quarterback that led us to a national title.  If Frost had the exact same resume with the only difference being he won a championship as quarterback at Somewhere Else U, I'm not sure we beat out Tennessee, Missouri, UCLA, Arkansas etc. for his services.

Or incredibly unlucky. He has a solid reputation at Nebraska that would be significantly tainted by failure as a head coach.

I don't think any of us can effectively gauge what his history here means.

 

[brophog]

 He probably got a good feel for the thread from a couple of pages. Nobody knows anything, so it is just speculation. Crazy or sane speculation- does it matter?

If you're going to claim something to be 100%, you should examine 100% of it.

 

[Landlord]

"Frost or Bust" shouldn't be used to describe people who only specifically want him to be our head coach. It should be used to describe the state of our football program.

Coaching hires are gambles and there's no guarantee of success in the realm of sports. However, when you factor in all of the elements in place, almost every other prospective coach is either A) Someone who realistically will not be interested in coming here, or B) Someone who doesn't have either the demonstrated success or the momentum/hot name factor to place a lot of confidence in.

Scott Frost is the perfect candidate for our school. He's a former player, he's a young up and coming hot shot who would be a splash hire, and he's a coach who has done nothing but succeed everywhere he's been. Nobody else who we could actually get is going to come anywhere close resume-wise.

 

[The Maudfather]

Transcript of comment from Aaron Taylor:

"From conversations I have had with him....this is his dream job, relationship with the AD is a big factor, money doesn't mean a thing to him and we would obviously pay his assistants well. He is a little worried about the big fishbowl that this job has become and talked about enjoy the anonymity at his previous jobs. He is set to have a baby next week and Larry and Carol would also push hard also to have that grandbaby back in Nebraska. His latest visit with me on style of offense is a Nebraska style inside zone game and quasi Oregon outside zone game. He believes in the run game and would like something close to 65/35 run/pass game. If you compare his current offense to Osbornes, you will see a lot of similarities in the blocking schemes...even on those outside zone plays. Defensively he likes the attacking style and would bring his DC Erik Chinander with him. This guy is a big up and comer and in my opinion would restore the order...he is a good dude too."

This was posted elsewhere so I don't have the original link. 

Six to midnight. 

 

[jessica0]

You would have to negotiate and probably against UCF and others.

I can't see going above 4, because of what he will want to pay assistants.  

5 years and tell the fans to be patient and give him 5 years,  The fans need to stay off of his back for at least 5 years.

Yep, if Coach Frost gets hired the fans need to just let him do his thing. He has shown he knows how to win so you have to let him build a winner. 

 

[ColoradoHusk]

Do we have comparative strength of schedules just for reference? Assuming Nebraska has played a tougher slate thus far but probably not by much. 

Here are the current SOS rankings from ESPN.  This is through this past week's games.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

Central Florida was significantly higher than NU before this past week.  NU got a bump up from playing Wisconsin, and UCF's SOS was hurt from whipping up on Cincinnati.

 

[McGuillotine]

The year is 1996. A young Scott Frost sits in his Life Choices 287 class messing around with his teammates towards the back of the room. The Professor calls out Young Frost and encourages him to listen to this particular lecture. The professor continues his lecture on adapting to change and learning from others to ascend to your full potential. Frosty took these words to heart and went on to learn from the likes of Tom Osborn, Bill Belichick, and Chip Kelly. Frost adapted these men's philosophies and word to become the best coach in College Football. Who was that UNL Professor you ask? None other than Albert Einstain.

 

[Redreign22]

Since we're not supposed to start any new Scotty Frost threads, I'll ask the question here & hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle...

What would contract offer would you consider fair... AND....

What contract offer would you offer Frost in order to try and get him here in Lincoln? (assuming that's the coach you want)

How many years would you offer? How much base salary per year(guaranteed cash)? How many bonuses, and for what?

Feel free to throw in other coaches, too... I just finished midterms, and I'm bored.

10 year 40 million.

50 if need be.

Plus bonus.

 

[junior4949]

Call me crazy but I think Notre Dame wins all the tough games you listed with the exception of Stanford.  They have to go to Stanford the week after they play Navy in a sandwich spot.  They have a tricky 3 game closing schedule.  I do think Miami is doing it with a little bit of smoke and mirrors this year.  Losing Walton is going to be really problematic.

I guess I'm having some difficulty following you.  On one hand you mention Notre Dame is a coaching graveyard yet you also mention that every coach has at least one good season?  If the point you're trying to make is that Notre Dame is a tough place to win year in and year out due to the factors I mentioned plus insane expectations than yes, I would agree with you.

Every coach here has had at least one good season since TO retired as well.  No coach here and no coach at ND thus far has put a string of them together.  So far, each coach since Holtz retired and TO retired has been fired.  I doubt Kelly gets fired this year unless the wheels really come off the cart, but when he has another season like last year he's as good as gone.  Notre Dame really thought they were getting Urban Meyer.  They didn't.  A lot of us think we're getting Frost.  What if we don't?  The graveyard continues. 

 

[junior4949]

Is it just me or has Iowa really cranked out some pretty good defensive coordinators over the years? 

 

[jessica0]

Since we're not supposed to start any new Scotty Frost threads, I'll ask the question here & hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle...

What would contract offer would you consider fair... AND....

What contract offer would you offer Frost in order to try and get him here in Lincoln? (assuming that's the coach you want)

How many years would you offer? How much base salary per year(guaranteed cash)? How many bonuses, and for what?

Feel free to throw in other coaches, too... I just finished midterms, and I'm bored.

6 years for 30 million or 6 years for 24 million. The money for his assistants will need to be high. I'm pretty confident he will request a high sum for his assistants. 

 

[broganreynik]

YOU DO NOT KNOW THE POWER OF THE WIFE!!!  WE HAVE A VERY LOUD VOICE!  It comes in the form of pouting, whining, and other forms that I won't mention here    Seriously, if you're not married you won't understand but if you are then you know exactly what I'm talking about!

I’m married, and that’s most definitely not the case with us. So... maybe his wife isn’t the whiny, pouty kind that uses sex to get her way.

 

[URSS]

Stick with Riley and continue to see blow outs against ohio st, wisconsin, Penn st, and any team with a pulse? He got beat by 30 to Iowa last year. Iowa! Nebraska will most likely lose by that to Penn st this year. Maybe even iowa again. Iowa! All because of poor coaching and development. 

You're entitled to your opinion on all of this, but if you think keeping Riley around after this year will be best for the program then you are wrong. But with all due respect, of course.

I think Riley is a good buy, a class act and an average coach.  I also thought Solich was fired too soon and should have been given another year with the new assistants he had hired.  But in this case, I think Frost looks like the future to regaining our winning traditions.  If possible, I would like to see Riley retained in the Athletic Department in some function.  I would like to think that we are a good school and a good state- therefore we have room for a good guy to stay if he wants.

 

[broganreynik]

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Strangely enough, my wife’s cousin is actually dating that chick. Like the actual chick in the picture. They’ve been together longer than my wife and me.

 

[Head Coach Scott Frost]

Its coach speak and he is not lying. Florida/Nebraska/anyone else has not contacted him directly. They contact his agent. Thats how this works. While Frost is 100% focused on his team, his agent is 100% focused on Frosts job offers and contract. Thats why Frost pays him. 

Love the last line. This staff if capable, confident and they don't need me...

 

[Whistlepig]

You guys understand that rushing rankings are determined by yards per game, not the total quantity of yards...right? 

UCF playing two fewer games has no relevance towards any of that.

as we don't have great stats rushing I assumed the first guy was right about TOTAL rushing yards- my bad for not looking it up, however the facts are they are a better coached team and does anyone seriously think UCF would be 3-4 TD favorites if we played them?

and I doubt those people who claim to want a running team would reject Frost

 

[Stumpy1]

"Frost or Bust" shouldn't be used to describe people who only specifically want him to be our head coach. It should be used to describe the state of our football program.

Coaching hires are gambles and there's no guarantee of success in the realm of sports. However, when you factor in all of the elements in place, almost every other prospective coach is either A) Someone who realistically will not be interested in coming here, or B) Someone who doesn't have either the demonstrated success or the momentum/hot name factor to place a lot of confidence in.

Scott Frost is the perfect candidate for our school. He's a former player, he's a young up and coming hot shot who would be a splash hire, and he's a coach who has done nothing but succeed everywhere he's been. Nobody else who we could actually get is going to come anywhere close resume-wise.

I think you made all this up just to get the +1s from the "We Love Frost" crowd. 

 

[alwayshusking]

I think Riley is a good buy, a class act and an average coach.  I also thought Solich was fired too soon and should have been given another year with the new assistants he had hired.  But in this case, I think Frost looks like the future to regaining our winning traditions.  If possible, I would like to see Riley retained in the Athletic Department in some function.  I would like to think that we are a good school and a good state- therefore we have room for a good guy to stay if he wants.

I'm sure Mike Riley has no interest in this nor does it seem appropriate for us keep in the AD. If he wants to be an administrator it would be back home in Corvallis.