Scott Frost's fate under new AD

[Hagg]

It would be nice if we weren't constantly changing coaches.

A voice in the wilderness, you are.  Along with me and perhaps a few others.  I can't think of any coach out there that could honestly give us more hope (and kool aid) than SF can.. we've seen everything from Callahan style to Pelini style and a lot in between.  We need an AD who knows how to cultivate the existing coach's formula, with the program and with the fans and media, not put him on notice or any of that. 

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

50% hope and kool aid.... 

Other 50%- I do whole heartedly believe the OL has been rebuilt, and rather impressively, might I add.  They're still incredibly young but the OL, to me, is the base of a team's success in football at every level and even more-so in the Big10.  Not only is the size and recruiting profile a significant improvement on what we had when SF arrived but I have confidence in the depth being built too where a few more recruiting cycles we truly see a 2 deep year in and year out.  Austin is starting to get more praise but I think he's done the best job out of all the positional coaches from a consistency and results standpoint.

The defense as a whole is serviceable enough this year to win a conf title IF (major IF), we have a top offense in the league (obvi 2-3/4ish with OSU being top most likely).... We're still missing a dude on the edge who commands a double team but I'm very pumped at the LB and secondary talent and depth.  

From an offensive standpoint, there's no way to sugar coat it, SF has struck out on the skill positions- some of it are misses and others are just ridiculous... Mo wash, if not an off the field head case, would be garnering national attention right about now based off what we saw... SF really needs the Toure/Manning/Martin to produce and in a big way.

Big picture, I feel like last year was such a cluster F of a year for all that it wont be held against SF too much.  The illinois game was an utter debacle that's inexcusable but for the most part, there are glimmers and signs of significan progress from where we were 4-5 years ago, it just rarely has come together at once and stayed there......

I'll say this then I'll get off ma broken and cracked soap box- I agree with the other posters its entirely dependent on the background of who theyre bringing in... A "Nebraska man" (hate that term that Michigan uses but I'm using it here) is gonna have a longer leash... Outsider, not so much... it does beg the question tho- what's the caliber of the coach they'd bring in and their openness to taking on this job?  The answer to this better be a significant upgrade over SF... let's not forget he was the coaching candidate to grab when we did and I'm approaching this job very apprehensively if a guy who knows the state and had a stellar track record prior couldn't get it done.

I believe a lot of the things you mentioned as well but we havent seen a level of execution or progress to put anything other than hope behind many of those things. I agree that the OL should be improved. We havent seen it yet so to me that currently sits in the hope and kool aid column etc. 

 

[Mavric]

Big picture, I feel like last year was such a cluster F of a year for all that it wont be held against SF too much.  The illinois game was an utter debacle that's inexcusable but for the most part, there are glimmers and signs of significan progress from where we were 4-5 years ago, it just rarely has come together at once and stayed there......

Sean Callahan keeps bringing up how much the Minnesota and Illinois games last year changed the feelings and perspective of where we're at.  Two games where we were big favorites but laid an egg.  5-3 with a big loss to Ohio State but one-score games against Northwestern and Iowa looks like we are very close to turning the corner.

Obviously those are huge ifs and it was pretty bad to play terrible in those games.  But it would be really interesting to know how these off-season conversations would be going in that alternate universe.

 

[Hagg]

Scott fired Bill and will be hiring the new AD. This isn't hard to figure from how things have happened. 

That notion reminds me of the (likely/rumored/probable) big money boosters' role in all of the firings over the past 20+ years.  Money speaks, but is very dumb.  The boosters are not necessarily dumb, but the money itself causes things to happen, decisions to be made, that are not always in the best interest as something as complex as a head football coach attempting to successfully ply his trade and develop his program over time. 

We've changed coaches and ADs so often in those decades that it seems impossible to assign full blame on the football program's failings on just the coaches.. the leadership itself has been trashed on the level of some banana republic trying to get their infrastructure modernized through several competing regimes over time;  it just cannot gel.. it cannot get a solid footing.

Now we have Scott Frost and his efforts and the loss column telling everyone that it's time for (another) new coach along with (another) Athletic Director.

 

[JJ Husker]

I’m just spit ballin’ here but I would imagine the new AD’s leash will be shorter than Frost’s. I would think the powers that be will make it very clear that SF is untouchable for a predetermined period of time in the 1-3 year range. 
 

Or maybe they learned absolutely nothing over the last 20 years…

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

I’m just spit ballin’ here but I would imagine the new AD’s leash will be shorter than Frost’s. I would think the powers that be will make it very clear that SF is untouchable for a predetermined period of time in the 1-3 year range. 
 

Or maybe they learned absolutely nothing over the last 20 years…

if it has taken us 20 years my hunch is they still havent learned haha 

 

[Mavric]

I’m just spit ballin’ here but I would imagine the new AD’s leash will be shorter than Frost’s. I would think the powers that be will make it very clear that SF is untouchable for a predetermined period of time in the 1-3 year range. 
 

Or maybe they learned absolutely nothing over the last 20 years…

The administration seems to be completely behind Frost.  I don't think that changes in the next few months, barring a complete collapse.

I can't imagine Ed Stewart taking the job with any expectation of having to fire Frost in six months.

 

[Decoy73]

I’m just spit ballin’ here but I would imagine the new AD’s leash will be shorter than Frost’s. I would think the powers that be will make it very clear that SF is untouchable for a predetermined period of time in the 1-3 year range. 
 

Or maybe they learned absolutely nothing over the last 20 years…

Exactly!  No AD is coming in with unilateral authority to change FB coaches.  Moos didn’t have it.  It’s just not happening at Nebraska with Frost here.    All this “hot seat” and “want their guy” BS from sports writers is just to sell subscriptions. 

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

Agreed.  Frost is probably safe through the 2022 season.  If he puts up 5 losing seasons (6 in a row for the program, 7 of last 8) he is done.

 

[Cobra Kai]

We have 1 gimme on our schedule this year, 4 we should be favored, 2 pick Em's, 3 underdog, and two severe underdog.

Schedule is brutal & we'll be improved and 6-6 or 7-5 at best.  We could be 4-8 or 5-7 and be vastly improved from a talent standpoint.  

Frost won't be fired based upon this years performance, unless we go 3-9 or worse.  Lay off the hard stuff & start smoking the peace pipe.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

We have 1 gimme on our schedule this year, 4 we should be favored, 2 pick Em's, 3 underdog, and two severe underdog.

Schedule is brutal & we'll be improved and 6-6 or 7-5 at best.  We could be 4-8 or 5-7 and be vastly improved from a talent standpoint.  

Frost won't be fired based upon this years performance, unless we go 3-9 or worse.  Lay off the hard stuff & start smoking the peace pipe.

So basically a bowl game or else things get a bit more interesting. Which I think we all expect us to be good enough to do. 

 

[Cobra Kai]

So basically a bowl game or else things get a bit more interesting. Which I think we all expect us to be good enough to do. 

I agree with your logic, but if recent history is any indication of future performance, I wouldn't count any of our games as W's until the final whistle blows.  We haven't earned the benefit of the doubt back yet.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

I agree with your logic, but if recent history is any indication of future performance, I wouldn't count any of our games as W's until the final whistle blows.  We haven't earned the benefit of the doubt back yet.

I dont disagree at all. Which is why I believe we are all running on hope and kool aid this offseason. I "think/hope" we will make marked improvement in several areas. Defense should be above average. OL "should" be improved, TE play should be solid, WR "should" be improved, QB play well we "hope" is improved and the total wildcard is that of RB as Held hasnt been able show us a back he can recruit yet that is in the more than serviceable category at this point.  

 

[TGHusker]

it is all I have left to run on when it comes down to it. I do think we will be better this year, I really do. But I also thought last year wouldnt be as bad as it was. 

I'm wt you.  I do think we'll be better but will the tough schedule hide it  :dunno   It is time we win the games we were so close to winning in years past and win some games that might be considered an upset.   I think we have to go back to Tommie Armstrong and the upset vs MSU as our last upset win.  And then eventually we'll get to the point where there are no upset wins for a different reason ---- it is expected.   I still think next year will be our 'restore the order' year  :restore and it will start with a win over OU  u1: in Lincoln.  If it doesn't happen next year, it won't happen under Frost.  

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

I'm wt you.  I do think we'll be better but will the tough schedule hide it  :dunno   It is time we win the games we were so close to winning in years past and win some games that might be considered an upset.   I think we have to go back to Tommie Armstrong and the upset vs MSU as our last upset win.  And then eventually we'll get to the point where there are no upset wins for a different reason ---- it is expected.   I still think next year will be our 'restore the order' year  :restore and it will start with a win over OU  u1: in Lincoln.  If it doesn't happen next year, it won't happen under Frost.  

I am on board with that completely.