SCOTUS thread

Moiraine said:
Both is fine. I would also stop doing 2-year terms for House. That's too short. Maybe 6 years is too longer for Senators, but I don't know the logic behind either. Alternating for each state makes sense, so for Senate 4 year alternating terms would work. 4 years would work for the House too. 

Anyhow, make 12 years the max you can serve in the Senate and House. If you want to serve longer, you switch chambers. 24 is the absolute max you can serve. 

For Supreme Court, make it 16 year appointments and you only get 1.
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For the House and Senate, four and four is fine. One a year from the presidential election, one a year before.

 
Just in time for the election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-BB1q6pbz

President Biden is finalizing plans to endorse major changes to the Supreme Court in the coming weeks, including proposals for legislation to establish term limits for the justices and an enforceable ethics code, according to two people briefed on the plans.

He is also weighing whether to call for a constitutional amendment to eliminate broad immunity for presidents and other constitutional officeholders, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

The announcement would mark a major shift for Biden, a former chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who has long resisted calls to make substantive changes to the high court. The potential changes come in response to growing outrage among his supporters about recent ethics scandals surrounding Justice Clarence Thomas and decisions by the new court majority that have changed legal precedent on issues including abortion and federal regulatory powers.

Biden previewed the shift in a Zoom call Saturday with the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

“I’m going to need your help on the Supreme Court, because I’m about to come out — I don’t want to prematurely announce it — but I’m about to come out with a major initiative on limiting the court. … I’ve been working with constitutional scholars for the last three months, and I need some help,” Biden said, according to a transcript of the call obtained by The Washington Post.
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Archy1221 said:
I’m certainly fine with SCOTUS term limits if and only if Congress also puts in term limits for themselves.   Otherwise I’m out. 
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I'm for an age limit more than a term limit for both the SC and Congress. I'd set the age at the retirement age, if a candidate is older than the retirement age at the time of the election, they are no longer eligible to be on a federal ballot, be on the SC.  

 
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Madcows said:
I'm for an age limit more than a term limit for both the SC and Congress. I'd set the age at the retirement age, if a candidate is older than the retirement age at the time of the election, they are no longer eligible to be on a federal ballot, be on the SC.  
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I’m fine with that for Congress but would probably put the SCOTUS age at 70 mandatory retirement 

 
teachercd said:
Can you do age max though...would that not be an issue of being inclusive?  
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If our do nothing Congress can pass a law it would be OK, but why would they vote to limit themselves? Not sure it would hold up if it was an Executive Order from Biden. There are professions in the US that have mandatory retirement ages. Pilots, Air Traffic Controllers, Federal LEOs, and a handful of states have mandatory retirement age for judges.

And of course there's the term-limit option as well, but that has the same problem of why would Congress approve eliminating their individual job after so many years?

  • Pilots: the mandatory retirement age of airline pilots is 65. The Fair Treatment for Experienced Pilots Act (Public Law 110-135) went into effect on 13 December 2007, raising the age to 65 from the previous 60.[26]
  • Air traffic controllers: Mandatory retirement age of 56, with exceptions up to age 61. Most air traffic controllers are hired before the age of 31 (the hiring cutoff age for those with experience is 36).[27]
  • Foreign Service employees at the Department of State: Mandatory retirement at 65 with very narrow exceptions.
  • Federal law enforcement officers, national park rangers and firefighters: Mandatory retirement age of 57, or later if less than 20 years of service.[28]
  • Florida Supreme Court justices: The Florida Constitution establishes mandatory retirement at age 70.
  • Michigan Judges of all levels cannot run for election after passing the age of 70.
  • Minnesota has statutorily established mandatory retirement for all judges at age 70 (more precisely, at the end of the month a judge reaches that age). The Minnesota Legislature has had the constitutional right to set judicial retirement ages since 1956, but did not do so until 1973, setting the age at 70.[29]
  • New Hampshire Constitution - Article 78 sets the retirement of all Judges and sheriffs at age 70.
  • New Jersey Supreme Court also established mandatory retirement at age 70.
  • Maryland Constitution establishes mandatory retirement age of 70 for Circuit and Appellate Court judges.
  • Oregon – mandatory judicial retirement age of 75.
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Mandatory retirement - Wikipedia

 
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