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[Cdog923]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.

And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

 

[StPaulHusker]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.

And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

 

[broganreynik]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

The above posts were moved from the alternate uniforms thread from the football forum. Continue your discussion here about that.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

The above posts were moved from the alternate uniforms thread from the football forum. Continue your discussion here about that.

Always wondered why LP didn't go after Frost.... Was he scurr'd?

 

[ColoradoHusk]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

Also important to remember the era.... Nobody was putting up stats like the guys do these days. (example: 200 yards rushing/200 yards passing)

 

[ColoradoHusk]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

Also important to remember the era.... Nobody was putting up stats like the guys do these days. (example: 200 yards rushing/200 yards passing)

I did comment on era in my final sentence. The things that Osborne did with Frost in '97 was expanded in the 2000's by other coaches and basically ran the entire offense through the QB. Urban Meyer stole many concepts from the '97 NU offense and used it with Alex Smith at Utah and Tebow at Florida. The stats for QB's have totally blown up the past 20 years.

 

[StPaulHusker]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

Also important to remember the era.... Nobody was putting up stats like the guys do these days. (example: 200 yards rushing/200 yards passing)

I did comment on era in my final sentence. The things that Osborne did with Frost in '97 was expanded in the 2000's by other coaches and basically ran the entire offense through the QB. Urban Meyer stole many concepts from the '97 NU offense and used it with Alex Smith at Utah and Tebow at Florida. The stats for QB's have totally blown up the past 20 years.

Hand it off to Green or keep it and run? Very, very innovative.

 

[Mavric]

Frost wasn't that well received when he first came back - which was actually in 1995, iirc (redshirted) and I'm sure there was some resentment remaining in 1996, especially after losing to Arizona State. But I don't think that really carried over into 1997 all that much. By that time he - and the team - were playing well and the vast majority had gotten over it.

 

[StPaulHusker]

Frost wasn't that well received when he first came back - which was actually in 1995, iirc (redshirted) and I'm sure there was some resentment remaining in 1996, especially after losing to Arizona State. But I don't think that really carried over into 1997 all that much. By that time he - and the team - were playing well and the vast majority had gotten over it.

Pretty sure early in the season fans were chanting Frankie London's name to replace Frost.

 

[ColoradoHusk]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

Also important to remember the era.... Nobody was putting up stats like the guys do these days. (example: 200 yards rushing/200 yards passing)

I did comment on era in my final sentence. The things that Osborne did with Frost in '97 was expanded in the 2000's by other coaches and basically ran the entire offense through the QB. Urban Meyer stole many concepts from the '97 NU offense and used it with Alex Smith at Utah and Tebow at Florida. The stats for QB's have totally blown up the past 20 years.

Hand it off to Green or keep it and run? Very, very innovative.

You're dense.

 

[StPaulHusker]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

Also important to remember the era.... Nobody was putting up stats like the guys do these days. (example: 200 yards rushing/200 yards passing)

I did comment on era in my final sentence. The things that Osborne did with Frost in '97 was expanded in the 2000's by other coaches and basically ran the entire offense through the QB. Urban Meyer stole many concepts from the '97 NU offense and used it with Alex Smith at Utah and Tebow at Florida. The stats for QB's have totally blown up the past 20 years.

Hand it off to Green or keep it and run? Very, very innovative.

You're dense.

They ran the option. As they ran it before Frost and after.

 

[ColoradoHusk]

I get a kick out of the fact that Scott Frost is the face of that 1997 team in all of these photos. He was NOT well received when he came back to Nebraska in 1996, after having spent his first couple of years at Stanford under Bill Walsh, but time heals all wounds. Most people have forgotten about that, especially after how well he played on the way to the 1997 National Championship.

He's not the "face." He's the jersey reference.
And he wasn't as good as you remember in 97.

Yes he was.

Stats don't lie. But I've said all there is needed to say about this

Except when they do.

I agree that Frost's contributions go beyond the stats, but in big games (ranked opponents, division rivals, conference championship, and bowl game), Frost's stats were very good/great.

#2 Washington -- 18 rushes for 97 yards (5.4 YPC) 2 TD's, 8-15 Passing, 88 Yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

#17 Kansas State -- 17 rushes for 98 yards (5.8 YPC), 1 TD, 6-13 Passing, 94 Yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT

Missouri -- 23 rushes for 141 yards (6.1 YPC), 4 TD's, 11-24 Passing, 175 Yards, 1 TD, 2 INT

Colorado -- 14 rushes for 76 yards (5.4 YPC) 1 TD, 7-14 Passing, 92 Yards, 0 INT, 0 TD

Texas A&M (Big 12 Title game) -- 15 rushes for 79 yards (5.3 YPC) 2 TD's, 12-18 Passing, 201 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

#3 Tennessee (bowl game) -- 17 rushes for 60 yards (3.5 YPC) 3 TD's, 9-12 Passing, 125 Yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

Total for top 6 games -- 104 rushes for 551, 5.3 YPC, 91.8 Yards Per Game, 13 TD's; 53-93 (57%) Passing, 129.2 Yards Per Game, 1 TD's, 3 INT's.

While the passing stats aren't great, he makes up for it with his running stats. He also had very good passing stats in the final 2 games of the season, when teams tried to force NU to pass. This was a very different era for NU football, and college football, as a whole.

Also important to remember the era.... Nobody was putting up stats like the guys do these days. (example: 200 yards rushing/200 yards passing)

I did comment on era in my final sentence. The things that Osborne did with Frost in '97 was expanded in the 2000's by other coaches and basically ran the entire offense through the QB. Urban Meyer stole many concepts from the '97 NU offense and used it with Alex Smith at Utah and Tebow at Florida. The stats for QB's have totally blown up the past 20 years.

Hand it off to Green or keep it and run? Very, very innovative.

You're dense.

They ran the option. As they ran it before Frost and after.

Yes, they ran plenty of option, but Osborne introduced runs where he was the designed runner and had both the fullback and I-back be lead blockers. There were also other trap style blocks that they ran for Frost, that may look like a "QB draw" to the layman.

Osborne created a lot of plays that that they hadn't run with his QB's before Frost got there. The running game, especially under Osborne, is far more complex than you seem to think it is.

 

[Mavric]

Frost wasn't that well received when he first came back - which was actually in 1995, iirc (redshirted) and I'm sure there was some resentment remaining in 1996, especially after losing to Arizona State. But I don't think that really carried over into 1997 all that much. By that time he - and the team - were playing well and the vast majority had gotten over it.

Pretty sure early in the season fans were chanting Frankie London's name to replace Frost.

Eh. I still think that was the 1996 season.

In 1997, he ran for 123 yards and 2 TD (averaging over 10 YPC) in a 45 point win over Akron. Then he ran for 129 yards and 2 TDS (again over 10 YPC) in a big win at Washington. Then ran for 193 yards and a TD (nearly 10 YPC) in a 30 point drubbing of KState.

I'm not going to say there wasn't anyone calling for Frankie at that point. But I'm pretty sure most were loving Frost by then.