SI Mailbag: What Are Realistic Short-Term Expectations for Nebraska?

teachercd said:
Fans, don't lower your expectations because of Riley.  Raise your expectations because of Frost.

That crap-show that was Riley almost won 6 games last year...think about that.
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This year's schedule is twice as hard as last year's schedule.  Last year's team would have won 3 games with this schedule so frost winning 6 is a good improvement imo.

 
skersfan said:
But he did not start with a bunch of losers, he had talent on the team, they had won 12 games two years before and played in the Fiesta Bowl I think.
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Every time I see this I wonder if anyone who played on that 2013 team also played on the 2017 team.  If anyone was left, wouldn't it just be guys who were redshirting in 2013?

On the other hand, a lot of the guys from the 0-12 2015 team were still around.

 
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huskerfan333157 said:
Nebraska made a big 12 championship several years before bo arrived.  Frost is inheriting a program that went 4-6 in 2 of the last three years.  You're comparing apples and oranges.  
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2003 Solich 10-3 (5-3) Bowl

2004 Cally 5-6 (3-5)

2005 Cally 8-4 (4-4) Bowl

2006 Cally 9-5 (6-2) Div Champs/ Bowl

2007 Cally 5-7 (2-6)

2008 Pelini 9-4 (5-3) Bowl

vs.

2014 Pelini 9-4 (5-3) Bowl

2015 Riley 6-7 (3-5) Bowl

2016 Riley 9-4 (6-3) Bowl

2017 Riley 4-8 (3-6)

2018 Frost 

Just from a win-loss perspective, the Callahan and Riley eras look more similar than different to me.  Take out 2005 and they are just about identical.  As far as talent level on the roster, by many different measures we have seen it shown that the talent level has not drastically changed much over the last 15 years.  So I agree with those that think 6-6 is possible, but we should expect more than that in 2018.

 
There's nothing magical about 8-9 wins when it takes 14-15 to win the championship.

Just make a bowl game.  6 wins, 8 wins, whatever.

 
Redux said:
THIS

IS

EXACTLY

WHAT

APATHY

IS
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i don't expect 6-6...but i it happens i won't be calling for scott to be fired.   does that make me apethetic?

so if 6-6 happens and if it is totally unacceptable...you will be leading the charge to have scott fired? 

 
Redux said:
I watch a lot of football outside of Nebraska and completely disagree.  Michigan will be better?  Michigan State?  Iowa?  Wisconsin?

We basically lost to Purdue last year and you're telling me to temper my expectations?
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Michigan State returns a lot.  Michigan returns a lot.  Purdue will be better (Brohm is a pretty good coach). Wisconsin still has their whole oline and Taylor returnin.  Iowa may be s little words, I'm not sure.  Minnesota will be better, Ohio State might take a slim step back.

 
huskerfan333157 said:
This year's schedule is twice as hard as last year's schedule.  Last year's team would have won 3 games with this schedule so frost winning 6 is a good improvement imo.
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The schedule next year isn't twice as hard.  The teams played this year went 93-59 (61.2%) - the teams played next year went 98-56 (63.6%).

 
huskerfan333157 said:
You're missing the point.  We are facing equally talented or more talented team.  UCF had more talent than the teams they faced with the exception of Auburn.  USF was equally talented as well.
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Kind of?

Of the 12 regular season opponents on our schedule, only Ohio State and Michigan out recruit us. It's the same thing I've been saying for a few years. We aren't developing players like other programs.

 
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The Dude said:
Every time I see this I wonder if anyone who played on that 2013 team also played on the 2017 team.  If anyone was left, wouldn't it just be guys who were redshirting in 2013?

On the other hand, a lot of the guys from the 0-12 2015 team were still around.
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To add on to that, UCF had 17 kids on their 2 deep that were true sophomores or younger. I.E. Frost's recruits. That doesn't include JUCO guys like Mike Hughes. They only started 6 seniors.

 
commando said:
i don't expect 6-6...but i it happens i won't be calling for scott to be fired.   does that make me apethetic?

so if 6-6 happens and if it is totally unacceptable...you will be leading the charge to have scott fired? 
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He said he won't be angry.

This is honestly just a disagreement on the meaning of the word "acceptable" and I think most people here are on the same page. Which makes it funny.

 
huskerfan333157 said:
Michigan State returns a lot.  Michigan returns a lot.  Purdue will be better (Brohm is a pretty good coach). Wisconsin still has their whole oline and Taylor returnin.  Iowa may be s little words, I'm not sure.  Minnesota will be better, Ohio State might take a slim step back.
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If everybody just gets the same amount better every year why do they even play the games?  

 
huskerfan333157 said:
You're missing the point.  We are facing equally talented or more talented team.  UCF had more talent than the teams they faced with the exception of Auburn.  USF was equally talented as well.
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I'd throw Memphis in the equally talented category and Maryland in the more talented category. I'm not missing the point. This is a better roster than he had at UCF and every team in our division is less talented than us. Frost has work to do but he has more talent to work with now and while we do have tougher competition that doesn't seem to be a bother to Frost

 
Kiyoat Husker said:
2003 Solich 10-3 (5-3) Bowl

2004 Cally 5-6 (3-5)

2005 Cally 8-4 (4-4) Bowl

2006 Cally 9-5 (6-2) Div Champs/ Bowl

2007 Cally 5-7 (2-6)

2008 Pelini 9-4 (5-3) Bowl

vs.

2014 Pelini 9-4 (5-3) Bowl

2015 Riley 6-7 (3-5) Bowl

2016 Riley 9-4 (6-3) Bowl

2017 Riley 4-8 (3-6)

2018 Frost 

Just from a win-loss perspective, the Callahan and Riley eras look more similar than different to me.  Take out 2005 and they are just about identical.  As far as talent level on the roster, by many different measures we have seen it shown that the talent level has not drastically changed much over the last 15 years.  So I agree with those that think 6-6 is possible, but we should expect more than that in 2018.
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Callahan recruited a game changer like Sub.  I don't see that on this roster.  Also, this schedule is more brutal than what pelini had to face hid first year.  

 
FrankWheeler said:
The schedule next year isn't twice as hard.  The teams played this year went 93-59 (61.2%) - the teams played next year went 98-56 (63.6%).
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None of these maths are real. The teams don't have to win 122.4% of their games to make the schedule twice as hard. :P

But the twice as hard math isn't real either (nor was it intended to be).

 
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