If MU wins 8-10 games next year I'll be very shocked. I can see them eventually winning that many but it will be a once ever 5-6 years kind of deal.
Not trying to hijack the thread here but,
My question would be this then, how many games do you see them winning normally? And I am guessing that you believe that the SEC is just clearly that much tougher than any other conference.
I only ask because you said you see them winning that many once every 5-6 years. Mizzou has won that many or more every year for the last 6 seasons and 8 was recently the low mark only on the 3 seasons where they started a new QB who was a true Soph. They have increased the talent they have taken every year and the depth has improved leaps since the start of that run.
Also I am assuming that you believe that if NE was in the SEC they also would be a 5-6-7 win team and once every 5-6 years reach 8-10 wins?
Yes the SEC is that much better than B12. But also in MU's best years they either had the favorable home games or didn't have to play the best teams. They also only excelled win the teams in the North were down and going through coaching transitions that had teams overhauled majorly. KU, KSU, NU, Colorado and ISU all flipped multiple coaches in those years. To state that didn't play a large role in GP success would be dishonest. I also think many of his teams under performed compared to the talent they recruited. I think you give those guys to most coaches who've been at a school that long and they do better. I think GP is a bit overated as a coach. That being said I don't think MU can do much better either. The good news is I don't think GP is afraid to lie or cheat a little if he knows he can get away with it so he'll make some progress in the SEC. But I just don't see him beating LSU, FL, USC, Bama, but once in a Blue Moon. 50/50 games will be Arky, Georgia, ATM, Old Miss, Auburn, and Tenn. I see them beating Kentucky, Vandy, and MIss State regularly.
As far as us, I think NU actually would match up better in the SEC than it did moving to the B10 defense wise as well as offensive wise as we had started to recruit the smaller faster guys at the skilled positions. I think we would probably have still been no better than 4 or 5th in that conference and thats if we really played our best ball every single game. Last year we may have been the 6th or 7th best team. I however will put our coachs up again MU's crew and know that our set backs would be few and they'd actually learn to adjust to the conference in a very short time.
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Well thats quite scary considering the big12 is really that much better than the big10.... you guys would have to make a double jump up.
#1 Frankly you know very little about MU which is clear by some of the statements you made. Mu never missed any big dogs on the rotating south swing. They played either OU, TT and ATM or TX, OSU and Baylor. Meaning they playing either of the top 2 teams and the next 2 best every season. They won double digit games against both sets of schedules.
#2 To say mu's got rich off the poor or bad would not totally be true. But I could say that if your willing to say the same about huskers during their great runs in which the majority of the big8/big12 was dog sh*&.
#3 You obviously think GP sucks. well he has done well against a number of other coaches people think are pretty good. Is he nick saben? no, but he no slub either
#4 You dont think we can beat LSU, FL, USC, Bama, but once in a Blue Moon. Well again, we only play bama and lsu once every 6 years and never together. You think 50/50 games will be Arky, Georgia, ATM, Old Miss, Auburn, and Tenn. Well we will play arky geo and tenn every year, the others only once every 6 and never together, (ATM by the way is a joke, GP owns the aggies home and away). And you see us beating beating Kentucky, Vandy, and MIss State regularly. Well we only play miss st once every 6, but get vandy and kent every year
So according to you, out of the 8 conference games we have, 2 (vandy and kentucky) are sure wins
3 are 50/50 (Georgia, Tenn, Arky)
and 2 are not likely (SC and FL)
the other game just depends on who we got that year. So with no upsets we are 3-5 or 4-4 every year (7-8 wins every year with 4-0 noncon) So you basically have MU at 8 wins a year and 9 easy when they get the MISS schools 2 of every 6 years. Add in ATM to get 9 wins every 3 of 6.
BTW I like how you how you say Georgia a team that has finished #23rd or better 13 of the last 15 years and had double digit wins 7 of the last 10 years is 50/50, yet SC, who finished in the polls for just the second time since 2001 and had just their 2nd double digit win total in their history is and "once in a blue moon" type of win.... Your CFB knowledge is just overflowing in your response.
And FYI, Ne would finish about where MU would. So, there is always that...
