Skeptic/Believer

[BigRedBuster]

Were the defensive personell in 2009 and 2010 better talent-wise than in 2011 and 2012?

If yes-Bo's scheme obviously works when he has the talent to work with. Not so much with the mediocre talent we've had the past couple years. (not nice to say, but it's probably true). Supposedly, his recruiting has improved from the talent standpoint. Jury's still out, we'll see.

Don't make this about his recruiting, cuz we know. We know.

If no-n/m. We're f'd.

Isn't this true with pretty much all schemes? If you have good talent, the scheme looks great. If you have mediocre talent, the scheme looks mediocre.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Were the defensive personell in 2009 and 2010 better talent-wise than in 2011 and 2012?

If yes-Bo's scheme obviously works when he has the talent to work with. Not so much with the mediocre talent we've had the past couple years. (not nice to say, but it's probably true). Supposedly, his recruiting has improved from the talent standpoint. Jury's still out, we'll see.

Don't make this about his recruiting, cuz we know. We know.

If no-n/m. We're f'd.

Isn't this true with pretty much all schemes? If you have good talent, the scheme looks great. If you have mediocre talent, the scheme looks mediocre.

yes.

 

[skersfan]

Ohio State, Wisconsin were far beyond mediocre. UCLA and Georgia was not a lot better yards wise, but closer scores.

I agree he still is not a good head coach, and the main reason is because he is so stubborn. I like his fire, but he needs to understand that this really could be his last year here. If we have the same type of blow outs as last year, I do not see him surviving it. Really do not want to see that happen, because I think he is still two full years away from having a good balanced team. Next year the offense will be a problem, just like the youth will be a problem on defense this year. Still hoping I am surprised by the results, but skeptical to say the very least.

 

[Chaddyboxer]

Seems like every year our defense is young and inexperienced. where are all the senior players on defense? every year can't be because we have a young defense on why we lose games.

Stein, Martin, Carter, Compton, Fisher, Whaley, Smith, Stafford, ect.

Seems like we were pretty senior-heavy last year.

ok. so why did our defense play up and down so much?

That's a good question. Even if they weren't all-world recruits 5 years ago, you'd think Bo should be able to turn them into a somewhat capable defense, being a defensive guru and all. Debacles like UCLA, Ohio State, and Wisconsin shouldn't be happening anymore. There's no excuse for that.

Not gonna lie....I agree with the above....Maybe the talent just wasn't good at all.....I've seen Bo at times mold walk-on's, 2 and 3 star players into studds.....

Last year's season wasn't so evident on the defensive side of the ball at all.....

 

[Chaddyboxer]

I think the boys are thinking tooooooo much rather than playing! Complexity can kill a plan.

With all the young talent on the defense....I am sure Bo knows he needs to simplify things if he wants to see success on the field. He's mentioned this before if I am not mistaken.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Ohio State, Wisconsin were far beyond mediocre. UCLA and Georgia was not a lot better yards wise, but closer scores.

I agree he still is not a good head coach, and the main reason is because he is so stubborn. I like his fire, but he needs to understand that this really could be his last year here. If we have the same type of blow outs as last year, I do not see him surviving it. Really do not want to see that happen, because I think he is still two full years away from having a good balanced team. Next year the offense will be a problem, just like the youth will be a problem on defense this year. Still hoping I am surprised by the results, but skeptical to say the very least.

I dont see how he's so damn stubborn as folks make it out to be. He's adjusted his offfense. He changed his staff around. He's taken a more serious approach to recruiting. Granted, some of these adjustments have come within the last couple of years, so it may take a year or two more to start seeing the results. But I'd be willing to bet that he's changed up the way he does 75% job from his 1st year to now. Most of that is probably things we'll never know the extent of.

Yes, he does come off as stubborn though. But I'm not gonna tie that to the way he coaches like he's totally against any change whatsoever when he's getting curbstomped.

 

[BigRedBuster]

Ohio State, Wisconsin were far beyond mediocre. UCLA and Georgia was not a lot better yards wise, but closer scores.

I agree he still is not a good head coach, and the main reason is because he is so stubborn. I like his fire, but he needs to understand that this really could be his last year here. If we have the same type of blow outs as last year, I do not see him surviving it. Really do not want to see that happen, because I think he is still two full years away from having a good balanced team. Next year the offense will be a problem, just like the youth will be a problem on defense this year. Still hoping I am surprised by the results, but skeptical to say the very least.

I dont see how he's so damn stubborn as folks make it out to be. He's adjusted his offfense. He changed his staff around. He's taken a more serious approach to recruiting. Granted, some of these adjustments have come within the last couple of years, so it may take a year or two more to start seeing the results. But I'd be willing to bet that he's changed up the way he does 75% job from his 1st year to now. Most of that is probably things we'll never know the extent of.

Yes, he does come off as stubborn though. But I'm not gonna tie that to the way he coaches like he's totally against any change whatsoever when he's getting curbstomped.

They claim he is stubborn because they want to b!^@h but they really don't know what to b!^@h about. You are right, he has shown he is far from stubborn when it comes to managing the program.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Ohio State, Wisconsin were far beyond mediocre. UCLA and Georgia was not a lot better yards wise, but closer scores.

I agree he still is not a good head coach, and the main reason is because he is so stubborn. I like his fire, but he needs to understand that this really could be his last year here. If we have the same type of blow outs as last year, I do not see him surviving it. Really do not want to see that happen, because I think he is still two full years away from having a good balanced team. Next year the offense will be a problem, just like the youth will be a problem on defense this year. Still hoping I am surprised by the results, but skeptical to say the very least.

I dont see how he's so damn stubborn as folks make it out to be. He's adjusted his offfense. He changed his staff around. He's taken a more serious approach to recruiting. Granted, some of these adjustments have come within the last couple of years, so it may take a year or two more to start seeing the results. But I'd be willing to bet that he's changed up the way he does 75% job from his 1st year to now. Most of that is probably things we'll never know the extent of.

Yes, he does come off as stubborn though. But I'm not gonna tie that to the way he coaches like he's totally against any change whatsoever when he's getting curbstomped.

They claim he is stubborn because they want to b!^@h but they really don't know what to b!^@h about. You are right, he has shown he is far from stubborn when it comes to managing the program.

I wouldnt say that. At first, sker's fan would drive me nuts. But lately, last year or so, he has very legitimate concerns. He just sees it in a different light than me. I just dont think Bo is nearly as stubborn as people want to make him out to be. Him taking part in and actually coming up with the idea for that harlem shake video should be enough to squash a god's plenty of the false perceptions of Bo Pelini the person, AND the coach.

 

[Landlord]

Stubbornness is a quality you want in a head coach. However, like most things, it's a double-edged sword. Bo's stubbornness has done our program a tremendous amount of good and a little amount of bad, but he seems to have recognized ways in which he needed to reshift over the last ~1.5 years. Give it time fellas.

We're gonna be alright.

 

[TGHusker]

i will have to agree wt someone above who said that more blowouts and a 10-4, 9-4 record may make this Bo's last year hear. Even without the blowouts, I think the fan base is getting restless and Bo needs to produce some hardware within the next 3 years max. This year and next (I don't think we fall off much wtout TM) we will have an explosive O, and if the D talent is as good as Bo advertises (again - I won't believe until I see it on the field) than we should win the CCG and a significant bowl wiithin the next 2 years. If we have talent on both sides of the ball and still end up wt a 4 loss season - then it is the coach. Can't blame the players not executing forever. I was a huge Bo fan when he came but these 4 loss seasons are becoming weary. As Dirk said recently, He's not good enough to get us the championships but not bad enough to be fired (paraprhase) - I do hope he is able to make it all happen this year - I don't want to go through another coach search.

 

[skersfan]

THEY see blowouts under a supposed defensive genius. THEY see roster management as a lost art at Nebraska. THEY see 4 losses and in honesty should have been more. THEY see an offense that seems strong, but when they play real teams the offense is not that affective. I see a team that is seldom ready to play under the spotlight. I see a team that really has not developed much in 5 years. Bolievers see a new defense that has few returning starters, quite a that may have never played a down in college football as this end saving unit. No logical reason other than, did you see that kids high school video. WE have learned that real player performance is rated much higher by this staff prior to the season than during the season.

 

[Count 'Bility]

THEY see blowouts under a supposed defensive genius. THEY see roster management as a lost art at Nebraska. THEY see 4 losses and in honesty should have been more. THEY see an offense that seems strong, but when they play real teams the offense is not that affective. I see a team that is seldom ready to play under the spotlight. I see a team that really has not developed much in 5 years. Bolievers see a new defense that has few returning starters, quite a that may have never played a down in college football as this end saving unit. No logical reason other than, did you see that kids high school video. WE have learned that real player performance is rated much higher by this staff prior to the season than during the season.

youre a skeptic I bet.

:lol:

 

[Landlord]

THEY see blowouts under a supposed defensive genius. THEY see roster management as a lost art at Nebraska. THEY see 4 losses and in honesty should have been more. THEY see an offense that seems strong, but when they play real teams the offense is not that affective. I see a team that is seldom ready to play under the spotlight. I see a team that really has not developed much in 5 years. Bolievers see a new defense that has few returning starters, quite a that may have never played a down in college football as this end saving unit. No logical reason other than, did you see that kids high school video. WE have learned that real player performance is rated much higher by this staff prior to the season than during the season.

I see indignant whining.

 

[4skers89]

This is good. Let's get all of the negativity out during the offseason and once the season starts we can be positive and get behind the team.

 

[Count 'Bility]

This is good. Let's get all of the negativity out during the offseason and once the season starts we can be positive and get behind the team.