Suh- what is appropriate?

[sd'sker]

oops.

 

[sd'sker]

He should be put on team probation IMO, and he should practice without his blackshirt for the rest of the year.

For swerving to miss a dog? Are you kidding me? Please tell me WHY in gods name he would go on probation?

This is the most irrational comment I have heard in a while... and saying that on THIS board, is pretty impressive.

Not legal probation, just with the team, like a warning system. Just let him know he was lucky to get away with this, but that this kind of behavior is not acceptable for a team leader, or any team member.

What is "this kind of behavior." there is a team policy for impeccable driving? what next, punishing players for returning movies late?

Hitting 3 parked cars, at 2:30 in the morning after havng been out drinking the night after a game kind of behaviour.

Please on any given Sat night about half the campus has a .035 BAC haha Thats nothing. For him it probably would be about a 12 pack though

Never said a word about Suh being wrong for having a few drinks, but his decision to get behind the wheel, legally impaired or not, was a poor one. That's the difference, as a team leader and representative of the University of Nebraska, and a potential first round NFL draft choice, it was obviously a poor decision. Do kids get away with it every weekend? Absolutely! Does that make it right for Suh? IMO, no. When you wear the uniform, and profess to be a team leader you are held to a different standard than the average 22 year old idiot.

No, limiting himself to .035 BAC was was great decision. He limited himself and did what every alcohol commercial politely requests, he drank responsibly. It was unfortunate that he got in a car accident, but there is no evidence they are related. If anything, he should not have driven because he must have been to tired to drive.

 

[Miandrital]

He should be put on team probation IMO, and he should practice without his blackshirt for the rest of the year.

For swerving to miss a dog? Are you kidding me? Please tell me WHY in gods name he would go on probation?

This is the most irrational comment I have heard in a while... and saying that on THIS board, is pretty impressive.

Not legal probation, just with the team, like a warning system. Just let him know he was lucky to get away with this, but that this kind of behavior is not acceptable for a team leader, or any team member.

What is "this kind of behavior." there is a team policy for impeccable driving? what next, punishing players for returning movies late?

Hitting 3 parked cars, at 2:30 in the morning after havng been out drinking the night after a game kind of behaviour.

Please on any given Sat night about half the campus has a .035 BAC haha Thats nothing. For him it probably would be about a 12 pack though

Never said a word about Suh being wrong for having a few drinks, but his decision to get behind the wheel, legally impaired or not, was a poor one. That's the difference, as a team leader and representative of the University of Nebraska, and a potential first round NFL draft choice, it was obviously a poor decision. Do kids get away with it every weekend? Absolutely! Does that make it right for Suh? IMO, no. When you wear the uniform, and profess to be a team leader you are held to a different standard than the average 22 year old idiot.

No, limiting himself to .035 BAC was was great decision. He limited himself and did what every alcohol commercial politely requests, he drank responsibly. It was unfortunate that he got in a car accident, but there is no evidence they are related. If anything, he should not have driven because he must have been to tired to drive.

According to this study: http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/60/9/689

the low level of alcohol intake could have exacerbated his sleepiness, causing the accident. Not that I agree with jliehr here, but he does have a point about Suh being a leader and needing to be a little bit smarter.

 

[sd'sker]

He should be put on team probation IMO, and he should practice without his blackshirt for the rest of the year.

For swerving to miss a dog? Are you kidding me? Please tell me WHY in gods name he would go on probation?

This is the most irrational comment I have heard in a while... and saying that on THIS board, is pretty impressive.

Not legal probation, just with the team, like a warning system. Just let him know he was lucky to get away with this, but that this kind of behavior is not acceptable for a team leader, or any team member.

What is "this kind of behavior." there is a team policy for impeccable driving? what next, punishing players for returning movies late?

Hitting 3 parked cars, at 2:30 in the morning after havng been out drinking the night after a game kind of behaviour.

Please on any given Sat night about half the campus has a .035 BAC haha Thats nothing. For him it probably would be about a 12 pack though

Never said a word about Suh being wrong for having a few drinks, but his decision to get behind the wheel, legally impaired or not, was a poor one. That's the difference, as a team leader and representative of the University of Nebraska, and a potential first round NFL draft choice, it was obviously a poor decision. Do kids get away with it every weekend? Absolutely! Does that make it right for Suh? IMO, no. When you wear the uniform, and profess to be a team leader you are held to a different standard than the average 22 year old idiot.

No, limiting himself to .035 BAC was was great decision. He limited himself and did what every alcohol commercial politely requests, he drank responsibly. It was unfortunate that he got in a car accident, but there is no evidence they are related. If anything, he should not have driven because he must have been to tired to drive.

According to this study: http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/60/9/689

the low level of alcohol intake could have exacerbated his sleepiness, causing the accident. Not that I agree with jliehr here, but he does have a point about Suh being a leader and needing to be a little bit smarter.

I agree that getting into the car accident showed poor judgment in his driving ability. I just don't think this is a character issue.

 

[HuskerNMO]

Never said a word about Suh being wrong for having a few drinks, but his decision to get behind the wheel, legally impared or not, was a poor one. That's the difference, as a team leader and representative of the University of Nebraska, and a potential first round NFL draft choice, it was obviously a poor decision. Do kids get away with it every weekend? Absolutely! Does that make it right for Suh? IMO, no. When you wear the uniform, and profess to be a team leader you are held to a different standard than the average 22 year old idiot.

You're saying that you cannot drive if you've had ANYTHING to drink. This stance is not supported by cultural mores, legal rulings, police opinion or public practice. We're not living in Amish Country here. You can have a beer and still drive. It's not illegal.

Actually I didn't say that, I said Suh as a leader of the team shouldn't have done it, I promise you his parents, his coaches and even himself after the fact would agree 100%

As far as your other comments

The law clearly says you can't drive under the influence of alcohol, or you are considered unlawful. Comments after some of the law below.

http://uniweb.legislature.ne.gov/laws/stat...ute=s6006196000

•This section defines one offense which can be proved by any of three ways: (1) By proof that the defendant was in physical control of a motor vehicle while under the influence of alcoholic liquor; (2) by proof that the defendant was in physical control of a motor vehicle while under the influence of any drug; or (3) by proof that the defendant was in physical control of a motor vehicle while having ten-hundreths of one percent or more by weight of alcohol in his or her body fluid. State v. Hilker, 210 Neb. 810, 317 N.W.2d 82 (1982).

•As used in this section, the phrase "under the influence of alcoholic liquor" means after the ingestion of alcohol in an amount sufficient to impair to any appreciable degree the ability to operate a motor vehicle in a prudent and cautious manner. State v. Batts, 233 Neb. 776, 448 N.W.2d 136 (1989).

•It is not necessary for a conviction for driving under the influence of alcoholic liquor that a sample of blood, breath, or urine show a certain concentration of alcohol in a defendant's blood, breath, or urine, as those are alternate offenses under this section. Either a law enforcement officer's observations of the defendant's intoxicated behavior or the defendant's poor performance on field sobriety tests constitutes sufficient evidence to sustain a conviction of driving while under the influence of alcoholic beverages. State v. Green, 238 Neb. 328, 470 N.W.2d 736 (1991).

Insert my own thoughts

It's also illegal to drive 1 mile over the posted speed limit, that doesn't mean you will always be charged for it.

Not getting charged with a DUI means they don't have enough to prosecute, it doesn't mean that he didn't break the law.

If everyone was charged every time they broke a law, the legal system would crumble.

 

[HuskerNMO]

He should be put on team probation IMO, and he should practice without his blackshirt for the rest of the year.

For swerving to miss a dog? Are you kidding me? Please tell me WHY in gods name he would go on probation?

This is the most irrational comment I have heard in a while... and saying that on THIS board, is pretty impressive.

Not legal probation, just with the team, like a warning system. Just let him know he was lucky to get away with this, but that this kind of behavior is not acceptable for a team leader, or any team member.

What is "this kind of behavior." there is a team policy for impeccable driving? what next, punishing players for returning movies late?

Hitting 3 parked cars, at 2:30 in the morning after havng been out drinking the night after a game kind of behaviour.

Please on any given Sat night about half the campus has a .035 BAC haha Thats nothing. For him it probably would be about a 12 pack though

Never said a word about Suh being wrong for having a few drinks, but his decision to get behind the wheel, legally impaired or not, was a poor one. That's the difference, as a team leader and representative of the University of Nebraska, and a potential first round NFL draft choice, it was obviously a poor decision. Do kids get away with it every weekend? Absolutely! Does that make it right for Suh? IMO, no. When you wear the uniform, and profess to be a team leader you are held to a different standard than the average 22 year old idiot.

No, limiting himself to .035 BAC was was great decision. He limited himself and did what every alcohol commercial politely requests, he drank responsibly. It was unfortunate that he got in a car accident, but there is no evidence they are related. If anything, he should not have driven because he must have been to tired to drive.

According to this study: http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/60/9/689

the low level of alcohol intake could have exacerbated his sleepiness, causing the accident. Not that I agree with jliehr here, but he does have a point about Suh being a leader and needing to be a little bit smarter.

I agree that getting into the car accident showed poor judgment in his driving ability. I just don't think this is a character issue.

Never tried to say his character was suspect, we both agree he made a bad choice to get behind the wheel. I think everyone agrees that he is a damn fine young man that will learn from this, and hopefully be better for it.

 

[Captain Hook]

Really? A .035 and we're still talking about this? REALLY?

 

[sd'sker]

He should be put on team probation IMO, and he should practice without his blackshirt for the rest of the year.

For swerving to miss a dog? Are you kidding me? Please tell me WHY in gods name he would go on probation?

This is the most irrational comment I have heard in a while... and saying that on THIS board, is pretty impressive.

Not legal probation, just with the team, like a warning system. Just let him know he was lucky to get away with this, but that this kind of behavior is not acceptable for a team leader, or any team member.

What is "this kind of behavior." there is a team policy for impeccable driving? what next, punishing players for returning movies late?

Hitting 3 parked cars, at 2:30 in the morning after havng been out drinking the night after a game kind of behaviour.

Please on any given Sat night about half the campus has a .035 BAC haha Thats nothing. For him it probably would be about a 12 pack though

Never said a word about Suh being wrong for having a few drinks, but his decision to get behind the wheel, legally impaired or not, was a poor one. That's the difference, as a team leader and representative of the University of Nebraska, and a potential first round NFL draft choice, it was obviously a poor decision. Do kids get away with it every weekend? Absolutely! Does that make it right for Suh? IMO, no. When you wear the uniform, and profess to be a team leader you are held to a different standard than the average 22 year old idiot.

No, limiting himself to .035 BAC was was great decision. He limited himself and did what every alcohol commercial politely requests, he drank responsibly. It was unfortunate that he got in a car accident, but there is no evidence they are related. If anything, he should not have driven because he must have been to tired to drive.

According to this study: http://oem.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/60/9/689

the low level of alcohol intake could have exacerbated his sleepiness, causing the accident. Not that I agree with jliehr here, but he does have a point about Suh being a leader and needing to be a little bit smarter.

I agree that getting into the car accident showed poor judgment in his driving ability. I just don't think this is a character issue.

Never tried to say his character was suspect, we both agree he made a bad choice to get behind the wheel. I think everyone agrees that he is a damn fine young man that will learn from this, and hopefully be better for it.

i don't think him driving was a bad choice, just getting hitting the cars was a bad choice. i don't know much about what actually happened, what i do think is that he should not be punished and would not be receiving preferential treatment for not getting punished.

 

[WCHusker]

Would I get banned if I asked jliehr to do everyone a favor & just STFU and get off his high horse?

Cripes

 

[HuskerNMO]

Would I get banned if I asked jliehr to do everyone a favor & just STFU and get off his high horse?

Cripes

I'll get off mine if everyone else will get off theirs

dedhoarse

 

[WCHusker]

I'm done responding to you. He got a freaking traffic ticket & in a minor wreck. BFD

 

[Malth]

It's also illegal to drive 1 mile over the posted speed limit, that doesn't mean you will always be charged for it.

Not getting charged with a DUI means they don't have enough to prosecute, it doesn't mean that he didn't break the law.

If everyone was charged every time they broke a law, the legal system would crumble.

Really? You can't be serious.

Lets see, how much evidence is required to cite someone for a DUI/DWA?

I know, let's measure their BAC by administering a breathalyzer test or a blood sample!!!11

You're reaching with your BS loopholes and interpretations.

He was given a breathalyzer test, and it was .035, which is .045 under the legal limit. It has been established by the state that .08 is the limit where motor skills are impaired to an appreciable degree. Therefore, you are not breaking the law.

If the officer gave a field test and he didn't notice any motor impairment, then you are not breaking the law.

I'd advise you to stop while you're ahead, instead of stooping to semantics to try to prove you're right.

 

[sd'sker]

It's also illegal to drive 1 mile over the posted speed limit, that doesn't mean you will always be charged for it.

Not getting charged with a DUI means they don't have enough to prosecute, it doesn't mean that he didn't break the law.

If everyone was charged every time they broke a law, the legal system would crumble.

Really? You can't be serious.

Lets see, how much evidence is required to cite someone for a DUI/DWA?

I know, let's measure their BAC by administering a breathalyzer test or a blood sample!!!11

You're reaching with your BS loopholes and interpretations.

He was given a breathalyzer test, and it was .035, which is .045 under the legal limit. It has been established by the state that .08 is the limit where motor skills are impaired to an appreciable degree. Therefore, you are not breaking the law.

If the officer gave a field test and he didn't notice any motor impairment, then you are not breaking the law.

I'd advise you to stop while you're ahead, instead of stooping to semantics to try to prove you're right.

He got the breathalyzer, i would be more suspicious if he got in a car accident and they didn't report that they took his BAC. police officers take nothing more seriously than drunk driving. (yes that is hyperbolic and i don't want to be called on it, but cops are very serious and unforgiving with drunk driving).

 

[HuskerNMO]

It's also illegal to drive 1 mile over the posted speed limit, that doesn't mean you will always be charged for it.

Not getting charged with a DUI means they don't have enough to prosecute, it doesn't mean that he didn't break the law.

If everyone was charged every time they broke a law, the legal system would crumble.

Really? You can't be serious.

Lets see, how much evidence is required to cite someone for a DUI/DWA?

I know, let's measure their BAC by administering a breathalyzer test or a blood sample!!!11

You're reaching with your BS loopholes and interpretations.

He was given a breathalyzer test, and it was .035, which is .045 under the legal limit. It has been established by the state that .08 is the limit where motor skills are impaired to an appreciable degree. Therefore, you are not breaking the law.

If the officer gave a field test and he didn't notice any motor impairment, then you are not breaking the law.

I'd advise you to stop while you're ahead, instead of stooping to semantics to try to prove you're right.

Or what tough guy? :box There's a PM link for me if you have anything else to say, otherwise we've thread jacked this enough.

Sorry to the mods and everyone else who had to read our arguments. I'll try to keep it in PM's from now on.

:wasted :backtotopic

 

[I See Red People]

hmmm....let me check........yep! I have no room to judge him.