Take THAT...Bo!

[Landlord]

Just because Osborne knows more than you or I do, doesn't mean he knows the entirety. It also doesn't mean that he had carte blanche support and approval for Pelini, either.

Bo Pelini isn't evil incarnate. He did a lot of good things, and he has a lot of good qualities. He always had good perspective on what his job was as a coach, he didn't sacrifice the moral standing of his team (per his sense of morality) for success, he's a good family man, he brought us things like Jack's spring game touchdown, some really poignant perspective after the 2011 Penn State game post-Sandusky scandal, and plenty else. But he also wasn't able to handle the pressure cooker that is Lincoln, and his response to that was to bunker down, turn inward, and insulate and isolate his team. It wasn't a conscious "f#*k you" to the fans, it was his attempt at what he thought was best.

Further, Tom has decades worth of examples to show us that he believes the best in everyone, and I'm certain this is true in regards to Bo as well. He probably saw a lot of good things that Bo did, and either ignored or fit the bad things into his belief that Bo is a good guy and a good coach and would get it figured out. Or maybe he even started to think that Bo wasn't the answer, but that the upheaval of getting rid of him would be worse for the program than the steady, consistent 9 win seasons.

All this to say that Bo had some good, had some bad, and wasn't a good fit for Nebraska, nor was Nebraska a good fit for him. That's okay. That happens sometimes. He did his best.

 

[JJ Husker]

You don't have to talk to the recent players this year to realize Bo was bad for the team.

It fits the narrative so people will push that agenda.

Tom Osborne was around Pelini a lot. He had an opportunity to hire Gill and he had an opportunity to fire Pelini. Instead, he doubled down on him and also endorsed him for subsequent jobs.

Why do some Husker fans insist believing they know more about Nebraska football success than Tom Osborne? What sort of arrogance does that require?

Tom Osborne was a great coach. That does not make him infallible in all things. Anyone whose head is not lodged up their a$$ could recognize that Bo Pelini had become bad for this football program. It's really quite simple and requires no arrogance whatsoever.

 

[Hammerhead]

Johnny's opinion in this case is about as informed as most people's on this board.

These former players should know better.. they know that people outside the program, even former members, simply don't know what's going on inside the program today. I would be dollars against dimes that Rodgers hasn't even talked to a recent player lately.

You're making an assumption that Johnny Rodgers is making an assumption.

 

[Mierin]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

 

[cm husker]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

Wrong again.

 

[darkhorse85]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

Yeah, he was awful at recruiting. You know, where you judge and choose other people.

 

[Mierin]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

Yeah, he was awful at recruiting. You know, where you judge and choose other people.

And coaches/A.D.s are exactly like players.

 

[cm husker]

Yeah, TO is awful at hiring coaches.

What a terrible staff he had all of those years...

 

[Mierin]

Yeah, TO is awful at hiring coaches.

What a terrible staff he had all of those years...

The point is he hasn't been infallible. He's made plenty of mistakes. Defending everything just by saying "Osborne liked him/it" is not a good defense. One mistake is enough to refute that defense.

 

[Mierin]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

Wrong again.

Which part?

http://m.journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-osborne-s-sense-of-calm-will-be/article_4728be79-4ff7-5d81-9b58-4d61ccf004d4.html?mobile_touch=true

 

[GBRedneck]

All you need to see and hear to confirm this is the bullcrap Bo's former players are saying. Openly trying to poison the well.

Bo was absolutely not the right guy for the job. He was a jacka$$. If he was so great, then why did no p5 school hire him? Why did no FBS team hire him?

Bo had a chance to go back to his hometown so his kids could finish school at his alma mater, and still get paid P5 wages. Not sure he would've taen a P5 job if offered. And I know P5 would hire him anyway, especially after the tape of that last player meeting. Too toxic.

But he's still one of only 2 D1 coaches to never win less than 9 games in his career.

 

[Polarhusker]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

Wrong again.

Which part?

http://m.journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-osborne-s-sense-of-calm-will-be/article_4728be79-4ff7-5d81-9b58-4d61ccf004d4.html?mobile_touch=true

BOOOOMMMMM goes the dynamite.

 

[GBRedneck]

You don't have to talk to the recent players this year to realize Bo was bad for the team.

It fits the narrative so people will push that agenda.

Tom Osborne was around Pelini a lot. He had an opportunity to hire Gill and he had an opportunity to fire Pelini. Instead, he doubled down on him and also endorsed him for subsequent jobs.

Why do some Husker fans insist believing they know more about Nebraska football success than Tom Osborne? What sort of arrogance does that require?

I'll make my own judgement based on what we know about Bo's character and attitude he instilled within the program.

What do you know about Bo? Any personal interactions with the man or are you just going off of the media reports?

I'm taking my feelings directly from Bo's own words.

His true character shows when he doesn't realize he is being taped.

Problem is, you don't have all of his private time on tape. That's why it's bad to take these things out of context.

Personally, I never had a single problem with his post OSU comments. Personally, I agreed with them.

I agreed with them, too. I also agreed with his comments in his last player's meeting, even though he shouldn't have said it to his players. He was right both times.

 

[junior4949]

Ok, he strongly suggested Pederson and people like you, who think he's a god, followed his wishes. Pederson was hired because Osborne said so. Just because he was a great coach doesn't mean he's good at choosing/judging other people.

Wrong again.

Which part?

http://m.journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-osborne-s-sense-of-calm-will-be/article_4728be79-4ff7-5d81-9b58-4d61ccf004d4.html?mobile_touch=true

There's getting to be a decent list of fail lying at the man's feet. When posters claim so and so are against the program and are sabotaging it, it almost appears they're placing blame on the wrong person. He's had a hand in some pretty dismal hires the past couple of decades.

 

[commando]

All you need to see and hear to confirm this is the bullcrap Bo's former players are saying. Openly trying to poison the well.

Bo was absolutely not the right guy for the job. He was a jacka$$. If he was so great, then why did no p5 school hire him? Why did no FBS team hire him?

Bo had a chance to go back to his hometown so his kids could finish school at his alma mater, and still get paid P5 wages. Not sure he would've taen a P5 job if offered. And I know P5 would hire him anyway, especially after the tape of that last player meeting. Too toxic.

But he's still one of only 2 D1 coaches to never win less than 9 games in his career.

not after this year.