Tangent Thread - December 2015 Edition

[GBRedneck]

Ahhh...... The Annual what constitutes a blowout conversation!

Important stuff is important!

 

[teachercd]

No we need a thread on "garbage points"...that one is usually the best!

 

[cm husker]

Nope, I am talking about the UCLA game in Lincoln when NU was up big at the half and got smoked in the second half...what that a blowout win for UCLA?

UCLA ended up winning by 20 didn't they? There is no doubt that a 20 point loss is a blowout.

I disagree here. 20 is hardly a blowout, particularly in today's game. A team down by 7 going into the 4th quarter who gives up a TD early in the quarter and then a TD at the end when "gambling" to get back into the game is not "blown out."

IMO, A blowout means that the the game is over for all intents and purposes by the end of the 3rd quarter (or earlier). An example would be if backups were put in the game to "gain experience." At 49-16, it was over for all intents and purposes. NU never got within a possession again, despite the 29 point 4th quarter.

Purdue was blowout and a loss to arguably the worst team in FBS (at least among P5 schools):

It’s true that the Huskers haven’t had much luck in close games this fall, suffering five losses by a total of 13 points. But Saturday was different. They allowed the Boilermakers to score more points (55) than they had in the previous three games (42) combined. This Purdue team hasn’t won much third-year coach Darrell Hazell, who had beaten just two FBS teams during his tenure. The Boilermakers’ only other victory this season was a 38–14 win over FCS Indiana State.

 

[GBRedneck]

Nope, I am talking about the UCLA game in Lincoln when NU was up big at the half and got smoked in the second half...what that a blowout win for UCLA?

UCLA ended up winning by 20 didn't they? There is no doubt that a 20 point loss is a blowout.

I disagree here. 20 is hardly a blowout, particularly in today's game. A team down by 7 going into the 4th quarter who gives up a TD early in the quarter and then a TD at the end when "gambling" to get back into the game is not "blown out."

IMO, A blowout means that the the game is over for all intents and purposes by the end of the 3rd quarter (or earlier). An example would be if backups were put in the game to "gain experience." At 49-16, it was over for all intents and purposes. NU never got within a possession again, despite the 29 point 4th quarter.

Purdue was blowout and a loss to arguably the worst team in FBS (at least among P5 schools):

It’s true that the Huskers haven’t had much luck in close games this fall, suffering five losses by a total of 13 points. But Saturday was different. They allowed the Boilermakers to score more points (55) than they had in the previous three games (42) combined. This Purdue team hasn’t won much third-year coach Darrell Hazell, who had beaten just two FBS teams during his tenure. The Boilermakers’ only other victory this season was a 38–14 win over FCS Indiana State.

Your brand of logic and common sense has no place in this thread! Take your pesky facts and get out!

 

[commando]

i have to reevaluate my thoughts on how great TO was now that i know that all his 10 point losses were blowouts. i never realized how often he did get blown out by the 10 point rule i have recently learned about.

 

[cm husker]

i have to reevaluate my thoughts on how great TO was now that i know that all his 10 point losses were blowouts. i never realized how often he did get blown out by the 10 point rule i have recently learned about.

Point to one game where TO had to score 29 points to pull within 10.

Hell, point to one where he scored 15 points just to get within 10.

Or ever lost to a team as bad as Purdue.

 

[BigRedBuster]

The Miami-NU game was 33-10 with 11 minutes left in the game. It could have/should have been even more than that but Kaaya threw a boneheaded INT in the end zone at the beginning of the 4th quarter. By all intents and purposes, it was a blowout.

I give credit to NU for playing hard, and making a miraculous comeback to send it to OT. But, it shouldn't have even gotten to OT. Miami's idiocracy, with a coach who would be fired a month later, was the reason NU got back in the game.

So.....let me get this straight.

If we make mistakes that allows Miami to score 33 points it's because Miami. If we make a come back and score 33 points to tie it, it's simply because Miami made find mistakes and we still suck.

Well ... that's pretty much what a lot of people said about the Michigan State game last year - in reverse of course.

^This. The scoreboard did not reflect it, but we were being blown out in that game...

Sure we were....Just like we WERE getting blown out in the Miami game.

The fact is, neither game ended up a blow out because the game is 60 minutes long. It doesn't mean jack squat what the score is at half time or even the beginning of the 4th. What matters is at the end. Do TDs mean more if they are scored at the beginning of a game compared to the end?

If we would have completed the pass in over time and won the game, would have Miami still blown us out? If so, that's kind of weird being blown out by a team you beat.

 

[commando]

The Miami-NU game was 33-10 with 11 minutes left in the game. It could have/should have been even more than that but Kaaya threw a boneheaded INT in the end zone at the beginning of the 4th quarter. By all intents and purposes, it was a blowout.

I give credit to NU for playing hard, and making a miraculous comeback to send it to OT. But, it shouldn't have even gotten to OT. Miami's idiocracy, with a coach who would be fired a month later, was the reason NU got back in the game.

So.....let me get this straight.

If we make mistakes that allows Miami to score 33 points it's because Miami. If we make a come back and score 33 points to tie it, it's simply because Miami made find mistakes and we still suck.

Well ... that's pretty much what a lot of people said about the Michigan State game last year - in reverse of course.

^This. The scoreboard did not reflect it, but we were being blown out in that game...

Sure we were....Just like we WERE getting blown out in the Miami game.

The fact is, neither game ended up a blow out because the game is 60 minutes long. It doesn't mean jack squat what the score is at half time or even the beginning of the 4th. What matters is at the end. Do TDs mean more if they are scored at the beginning of a game compared to the end?

If we would have completed the pass in over time and won the game, would have Miami still blown us out? If so, that's kind of weird being blown out by a team you beat.

we can look back to the ohio state comeback to see that end. is that game considered a blowout even though we scored enough "garbage points" to outscore the buckeyes?

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I reserve the right to be appalled by the Purdue loss.

It was a blowout the same way this year's Miami game and last year's MSU games were blowouts.

But I can't write off those comebacks as garbage time. For some reason the urgency finally gets Nebraska's attention, combined with the opposing defense going into a predictable prevent mode. When Nebraska closed to 10 points against Purdue in the fourth quarter, even the announcers were giving the Huskers a chance to win, because they've done this kinda thing before. I believe that was the moment Ryker Fyfe threw his fifth interception.

Purdue may be the bottom of the Big 10 barrel, but they took both MSU and Northwestern down to the wire.

I thought the loss to Illinois the week before was the lowest point, and Purdue just a comical exclamation point.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

You don't think "hating Frank & Bo and Loving Callahan" is a bit too strong for pretty much anyone in this spirited conversation?

No.

But you're free to disagree.

I cant recall more than one person liking Bill Callahan more than Frank Solich.

 

[Mierin]

a 10 point loss is a blowout only if it fits your agenda

Letting the worst team in the B1G score 55 on you is not a blowout only if it fits your agenda.

How terrible the opponent is and how many points they scored have nothing whatsoever to do with the definition of a blowout. By your idiotic definition, we blew MSU out. They're a playoff team so beating them by 1 point would be a blowout if we follow this idiocy.

How do you reach that conclusion???

Use your brain. The post is saying that since it was Purdue, 10 points is a blowout. If we define a loss as a blowout based on how bad the team is then beating a terrible team by 21 is not a blowout and beating a great team by any amount of points is a blowout. This is why it's so stupid. The quality of the opponent is not relevant in whether the win/loss was a blowout.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

The Miami-NU game was 33-10 with 11 minutes left in the game. It could have/should have been even more than that but Kaaya threw a boneheaded INT in the end zone at the beginning of the 4th quarter. By all intents and purposes, it was a blowout.

I give credit to NU for playing hard, and making a miraculous comeback to send it to OT. But, it shouldn't have even gotten to OT. Miami's idiocracy, with a coach who would be fired a month later, was the reason NU got back in the game.

So.....let me get this straight.

If we make mistakes that allows Miami to score 33 points it's because Miami. If we make a come back and score 33 points to tie it, it's simply because Miami made find mistakes and we still suck.

Well ... that's pretty much what a lot of people said about the Michigan State game last year - in reverse of course.

^This. The scoreboard did not reflect it, but we were being blown out in that game...

Sure we were....Just like we WERE getting blown out in the Miami game.

The fact is, neither game ended up a blow out because the game is 60 minutes long. It doesn't mean jack squat what the score is at half time or even the beginning of the 4th. What matters is at the end. Do TDs mean more if they are scored at the beginning of a game compared to the end?

If we would have completed the pass in over time and won the game, would have Miami still blown us out? If so, that's kind of weird being blown out by a team you beat.

we can look back to the ohio state comeback to see that end. is that game considered a blowout even though we scored enough "garbage points" to outscore the buckeyes?

I think if Nebraska wins the game, it shouldn't be considered a blowout loss.

But that's just me.

 

[cm husker]

a 10 point loss is a blowout only if it fits your agenda

Letting the worst team in the B1G score 55 on you is not a blowout only if it fits your agenda.

How terrible the opponent is and how many points they scored have nothing whatsoever to do with the definition of a blowout. By your idiotic definition, we blew MSU out. They're a playoff team so beating them by 1 point would be a blowout if we follow this idiocy.

How do you reach that conclusion???

Use your brain. The post is saying that since it was Purdue, 10 points is a blowout. If we define a loss as a blowout based on how bad the team is then beating a terrible team by 21 is not a blowout and beating a great team by any amount of points is a blowout. This is why it's so stupid. The quality of the opponent is not relevant in whether the win/loss was a blowout.

The inverse of a logical statement is not always true. If you use your brain, you'd know that.
And I'm not going to argue for the other poster, but my impression is that he sees allowing 55 points to a team that had previously mustered 42 combined was a blowout, even if NU tacked on some meaningless points at the end to make the game appear closer than it was.

Again, NU was down 42-16 at the end of 3 and never got within a score of Purdue again.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Nope, I am talking about the UCLA game in Lincoln when NU was up big at the half and got smoked in the second half...what that a blowout win for UCLA?

UCLA ended up winning by 20 didn't they? There is no doubt that a 20 point loss is a blowout.

I disagree here. 20 is hardly a blowout, particularly in today's game. A team down by 7 going into the 4th quarter who gives up a TD early in the quarter and then a TD at the end when "gambling" to get back into the game is not "blown out."

IMO, A blowout means that the the game is over for all intents and purposes by the end of the 3rd quarter (or earlier). An example would be if backups were put in the game to "gain experience." At 49-16, it was over for all intents and purposes. NU never got within a possession again, despite the 29 point 4th quarter.

Purdue was blowout and a loss to arguably the worst team in FBS (at least among P5 schools):

Its true that the Huskers havent had much luck in close games this fall, suffering five losses by a total of 13 points. But Saturday was different. They allowed the Boilermakers to score more points (55) than they had in the previous three games (42) combined. This Purdue team hasnt won much third-year coach Darrell Hazell, who had beaten just two FBS teams during his tenure. The Boilermakers only other victory this season was a 3814 win over FCS Indiana State.

Your brand of logic and common sense has no place in this thread! Take your pesky facts and get out!

When a team scores 38 unanswered points in the last 2.5 quarters and holds the opponent to 130 total yards in the 2nd half on their way to a 20 point win I would consider that a blowout.
So your example does not work for the 2013 UCLA game.

 

[Elf]

excuse me....but isn't this thread about scott frost and his future? Harv is gone very soon here and Frost is in Florida. i don't think either has any affect on the others future so why is there a thread derailment attempt happening (yet again) from the conspiracy theorists?

Yeah well, there are certain posters who actually need to stop in every thread and drop as many turds as they can. Pretty pathetic really.

 

[zoogs]

The Purdue game was a disaster, no doubt. Look up a list of Husker players missing for that game and ask yourself if that possibly had anything to do with it. Attitude mattered, too, and there was a clear contrast between that game and the next one, when the Huskers took down Michigan State. A team Purdue also took to the wire.