Tangent Thread - Fall Camp Edition

Osborne and Steele hid a gun for Tyrone Williams for piss sakes. Get real people #WIN
The mischaracterizations and revisionisms continue. All to defend what?
It's well documented that this did in fact happen, so what are you on about?
Documented based on a zealous prosecutor is not proof of what in fact happened, let alone why it happened (i.e., it doesn't prove motive or intent to hide).

What is undisputed Is that it was held for two days and given to police when asked for (and after the staff had notified police of its existence).

Hiding a gun is not done that way. Or do you think they are stupid?

Also, what was the end result of that investigation?
You are absolutely correct. He didn't hide it.

Osborne was just holding the gun for the police. But since the police didn't ask for it, he didn't think it was necessary to offer it up.

Again, this is the version supplied by a single prosecutor (Lacey).

Other versions (also from police) include that Osborne notified police of the gun and gave it to them once they sent a person to retrieve it.

(A) does anyone honestly believe that a person who intends to hide a gun (a serious offense) would notify police and keep it at his offices?

(B) was Osborne or anyone else charged based on Lacey's rendition of the "facts"? Was it all a vast conspiracy of cover up?

Of course none of this has anything to do with Keith Williams, but it does continue a trend of trashing our past to justify our present.
When his actions came to light, Osborne said, "Frankly, if

anybody had asked, we would have given it to them sooner. No

charges had been filed, so we didn't think anybody was anxious

about it."

 
Kind of sad that you think an out of context statement somehow proves something - something that investigators and prosecutors didn't even choose to pursue, let alone charge and try.

 
Kind of sad that you think an out of context statement somehow proves something - something that investigators and prosecutors didn't even choose to pursue, let alone charge and try.
What about the others that stayed on the team?...Phillips, Peter, Washington.

Overall, I truly think Tom was/is a great person. But he LOVED to win as well. Those players would have been tossed in seconds nowadays.

 
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Kind of sad that you think an out of context statement somehow proves something - something that investigators and prosecutors didn't even choose to pursue, let alone charge and try.
What about the others that stayed on the team?...Phillips, Peter, Washington.

Overall, I truly think Tom was/is a great person. But he LOVED to win as well. Those players would have been tossed in seconds nowadays.
Osborne was a competitive son of a gun. And he also cared about his players in a fatherly sense. Combine those two and he'd do anything to protect them.

 
My friend who does camera work during practice said that he didn't hear a single person mention KW during practice today, so that's gotta be a positive.

 
BlitzFirst said:
Kind of sad that you think an out of context statement somehow proves something - something that investigators and prosecutors didn't even choose to pursue, let alone charge and try.
More sad that you guys are talking about Tom Osborne in a Keith Williams thread.
Hey, I agree. Would love to see people stop pooping on our past to justify our present.

 
BlitzFirst said:
Kind of sad that you think an out of context statement somehow proves something - something that investigators and prosecutors didn't even choose to pursue, let alone charge and try.
More sad that you guys are talking about Tom Osborne in a Keith Williams thread.
Hey, I agree. Would love to see people stop pooping on our past to justify our present.
It's not justifying. It's called calling out hypocritical bullsh#t.

 
Drawing a parallel between unsubstantiated rumors and a third DUI is idiotic.

And doesn't justify an approach in this situation, one way or the other.

 
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