TCU HC Sonny Dykes
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The Scarlet Pimpernel
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I agree - problem is, if Trev doesn't have his homerun hire already lined up, he's likely not going to get one. And I don't think he does. I mean who, other than Urban Meyer or Chris Petersen, would qualify as a home run?
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Huskerfollower4life
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chamrocck
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Meyer
Petersen
Gundy
Aranda
Kiffen
B. Stoops
All would be home runs and give Nebraska national credibility.
After these guys I’d say Fickell is a triple and probably Rhule too. I think Fickell will end up in the B1G at some point.
Sanders is a unique wild card. He’s like stealing home. Something you don’t see very often.
To me Campbell and Leipold are two of the weaker candidates, single or double material. M. Stoops, Dykes, Patterson, and Mullen are somewhere In this category too.
I probably missed some. Mickey’s throwing relief right now and it remains to be seen if he can close these guys out or if he gets knocked around the yard. Too many baseball analogies! :lol:
Petersen
Gundy
Aranda
Kiffen
B. Stoops
All would be home runs and give Nebraska national credibility.
After these guys I’d say Fickell is a triple and probably Rhule too. I think Fickell will end up in the B1G at some point.
Sanders is a unique wild card. He’s like stealing home. Something you don’t see very often.
To me Campbell and Leipold are two of the weaker candidates, single or double material. M. Stoops, Dykes, Patterson, and Mullen are somewhere In this category too.
I probably missed some. Mickey’s throwing relief right now and it remains to be seen if he can close these guys out or if he gets knocked around the yard. Too many baseball analogies! :lol:
NM11046
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All of you with a thing for Meyer forget that every recruit has a mom, grandma, maybe a sister or a girlfriend. To knowingly hire someone who not just condones but hides spousal abuse and someone who comes with a pretty decent list of his own personal abusive and philandering behavior and make him the face of the program, is not an investment in the teams future, in fact it harms the program in a way I don't think we recover from.
You don't just lose a lot of lifetime fans and financial supporters of the program (cuz they too have female friends and family members that they respect, or they're just moral people that will not continue giving money to such a program). If you think a parent is going to say "hel* yeah that's the guy I want showing my kid how to be a young man, I can't wait to send my son off to a program that condones and rewards that behavior".
Heck lets say you're ok with the covering up for his abusive coaches and the public grinding women who are NOT his wife etc - would you knowingly send your son off to be coached by a man that verbally and physically assaulted grown men on a professional fb team? Why would stop him from doing the same to your son? So many posts about Mickey have been about how he is taking accountability for this team right now not tossing his coaches or his players under the bus ... did you see the Jaguars press conferences and how Meyer behaved? Would you want to run through a wall for that guy only to have him make snide and comments about you in public?
Urban Meyer is an older, Scott Frost with just more successful years on his resume. He comes with all of Scotts issues AND the public spectacle. Past behavior is indicative of future behavior, and haven't we had enough of the frat parties and lack of focus and morals on this team?
You don't just lose a lot of lifetime fans and financial supporters of the program (cuz they too have female friends and family members that they respect, or they're just moral people that will not continue giving money to such a program). If you think a parent is going to say "hel* yeah that's the guy I want showing my kid how to be a young man, I can't wait to send my son off to a program that condones and rewards that behavior".
Heck lets say you're ok with the covering up for his abusive coaches and the public grinding women who are NOT his wife etc - would you knowingly send your son off to be coached by a man that verbally and physically assaulted grown men on a professional fb team? Why would stop him from doing the same to your son? So many posts about Mickey have been about how he is taking accountability for this team right now not tossing his coaches or his players under the bus ... did you see the Jaguars press conferences and how Meyer behaved? Would you want to run through a wall for that guy only to have him make snide and comments about you in public?
Urban Meyer is an older, Scott Frost with just more successful years on his resume. He comes with all of Scotts issues AND the public spectacle. Past behavior is indicative of future behavior, and haven't we had enough of the frat parties and lack of focus and morals on this team?
Red Silk Smoking Jacket
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Pretty solid analogies all the way around. I wouldn't put Gundy, Aranda, or Kiffen in the home run category though. If Rhule and Fickell are triples, Gundy, Aranda, and Kiffen are too. To me, home run would have to at least include having been to the CFP. That's not to say that's the only criteria, but it should be one of them.
I think we tried that with a guy named Mike Riley. Nice guy but still couldn't get top players. Good players and their families want them to go to the NFL. I don't think indiscretions in the past are going to sway the individuals thinking on this. Besides, just look at the moral decay our country is in right now. It's disheartening to say the least.
cheekygeek
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It's fun to banter about possible Head Coaches, but I'd like to remind people of this article about Trev Alberts from nearly one year ago.
Read it as a window into the mind and soul of Trev Alberts, because his opinion is the only one that counts. This is a quote most have probably forgotten:
You might recall that after Whipple chewed out Thompson on the sideline (Indiana game), Mickey did not interfere or join the conversation (though he was standing right there). But watch the end of it: he immediately did wheel around and follow Thompson AFTER the butt chewing. Call it Good Cop/Bad Cop, but a good journalist would have asked Thompson what Mickey said to him when that happened. I have the feeling it was something to encourage him and build him up. That's something he can't do if he's calling his own plays. That's the kind of CEO stuff that Trev wants to see on the sideline.
One question I would be asking is who Mickey would like to get to be his O-Line coach. I had the feeling that Frost was given a particular budget to make changes with, and he spent more than he wanted to on MJ, Whipple, Busch, and Applewhite - so the hiring of Raiola was sort of a (bad) budget move. If Frost really wanted to save his bacon, he would have made O-Line his priority - but he was always more about the "skill position players" (a misnomer in my book, since every position requires skill).
Read it as a window into the mind and soul of Trev Alberts, because his opinion is the only one that counts. This is a quote most have probably forgotten:
This, I believe, is the strength that Mickey Joseph has brought to the table. He's approachable, he's humble, but he's no-nonsense and he's principled. And if I've seen anything from his Interim Day One until now, it is concern for the "the kids" and putting them first - while at the same time emphasizing their contract with the University of Nebraska (not loyalty to a person). If Mickey has shown anything it is that he is a leader of men - Garrett Nelson doesn't appear to be the only one who wants to "ride with Mickey".
You might recall that after Whipple chewed out Thompson on the sideline (Indiana game), Mickey did not interfere or join the conversation (though he was standing right there). But watch the end of it: he immediately did wheel around and follow Thompson AFTER the butt chewing. Call it Good Cop/Bad Cop, but a good journalist would have asked Thompson what Mickey said to him when that happened. I have the feeling it was something to encourage him and build him up. That's something he can't do if he's calling his own plays. That's the kind of CEO stuff that Trev wants to see on the sideline.
One question I would be asking is who Mickey would like to get to be his O-Line coach. I had the feeling that Frost was given a particular budget to make changes with, and he spent more than he wanted to on MJ, Whipple, Busch, and Applewhite - so the hiring of Raiola was sort of a (bad) budget move. If Frost really wanted to save his bacon, he would have made O-Line his priority - but he was always more about the "skill position players" (a misnomer in my book, since every position requires skill).
gossamorharpy
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HA, yah, urban and frostys resume are really indistinguishable from one another if you just cover the names :flush
You've laid down some pretty aggressive takes here and not all are true. Sorry to break it to ya but the vast majority of families/kids who want to make it to the NFL dont care as much as you think they do at some of the "accusations" associated with Urban. If he was truly the devil you made him out to be, I highly doubt Fox is paying him big bucks to return.
Your take on his situation about his wife, again why does that matter? You're essentially putting your personal take on some one else's life. I dont follow husker football because the coach is loyal to his wife, i want wins. What if they have an open relationship and its fine with the wife, y does that matter to you?
You're more concerned about losing fans because of a perceived characterization that is partly false. Yet you don't seem to be that concerned that the wrong hire could permanently put this progrum into purgatory? Urban would be an absolute home run of a hire to right the ship here and you're delusional if you think there's another name that would even come close to surpassing him in reaction and results.
The natural natural progression for a coach to move from position coach-coordinator- Head Coach and it always has been but this is a much different game then even 10-20 years ago. Just because a guy is good at drawing up schemes and calling plays really has little to do with them being a successful HC, which is why you see so many of them fail. Being a good head coach is more about things like organization, accountability of both players and staff, and like @sho said, managing players and managing the game. If Trev understands this, which I believe he does, I think Mickey is a serious candidate for the job. So far it seems like Mickey can do these things and with Trev's help we could get some top notch coordinators and assistants.
If you think they can get top notch coordinators and assistants why not get a top notch head coach?
huskerfan1988
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For what it's worth, Coach Dykes is an offensive guy but hasn't called the plays in years. I think he did at Cal but I know at SMU he had Rhett Lashlee calling them and then Garrett Riley after Lashlee left for Miami. He brought Riley to TCU to call them there and would presumably bring him to Lincoln. Frankly, I don't think Riley will take a HC job until it's an upper tier P5 program and I don't think he's a big enough name for that yet which is why I think he'd come with Sonny.
