The Bowl Effect

[NoLongerN]

i don't see why either the a&m game or the holiday bowl "matter" more than the mizzou game (or okie state). obviously they all matter to some extent, and some matter than others (particularly texas and the championship game), but i still think it's dumb to say we lost every game that matters. the mizzou game was the most important game of the regular season, though i understand putting it second to texas given the emotions involved.

Read your thoughts ... and I agree with you that Mizzou game was a good win ... never would discount that. Again, my post was about the build up that results after sealing that win and setting up us representing the North in the conference championship.

In the end, I think we see the same thing ... from some different perspectives as fans. Enjoyed the interaction.

SheepdogMark

 

[The Architect]

i don't see why either the a&m game or the holiday bowl "matter" more than the mizzou game (or okie state). obviously they all matter to some extent, and some matter than others (particularly texas and the championship game), but i still think it's dumb to say we lost every game that matters. the mizzou game was the most important game of the regular season, though i understand putting it second to texas given the emotions involved.

Read your thoughts ... and I agree with you that Mizzou game was a good win ... never would discount that. Again, my post was about the build up that results after sealing that win and setting up us representing the North in the conference championship.

In the end, I think we see the same thing ... from some different perspectives as fans. Enjoyed the interaction.

SheepdogMark

The A&M game did matter at the time, why? They were rollin' on an undefeated streak, a hot team, a win puts you in a shot of getting back to the top, and what happens....we cry foul and loss our cool! IMO this is "The Effect", "The Hump". Playing through emotions i.e...Texas game. Look at what Alabama did, "NO ONE" thought that was going to happen. Saban and Co. came prepared to show the Nation...yeah we had "The Effect", "The Hump" but THIS IS OUR NATION TITLE GAME and showed everyone "ROLL TIDE" and rolled MSU like they were 6-6! People need to leave BO alone, THIS IS FOOTBALL FOLKS!! Saban had no problem slappin that kid in the rear and didn't apologize for it either! "The Effect" Mental preparation + Execution + Being physical + Having a Leader on the field = MNC!! In hard times....you fight to win!! GBR!!

 

[ADS]

Recruits will be more attracted to facilities and relationship with the coaching staff then the win loss record, or how one team faired in a bowl game.

 

[kchusker_chris]

Recruits will be more attracted to facilities and relationship with the coaching staff then the win loss record, or how one team faired in a bowl game.

Perhaps teams like Texas, Florida, Alabama, and USC can say that. Not Nebraska IMO. If it had just been a bowl game loss, or a solid 10-4 season highlighted by dominant play and unlimited positive press (like last year) maybe we'd be ok. Not much positive is coming out of NU after the bowl game (or for the entire year to be honest). The bowl game this year just emphasized everything. It's like hitting a fade into the wind; it's going to slice, not fade.

Winning impacts our recruiting dramatically - more so than numerous other teams. We don't have much of a draw outside of the football program to fall back on, or make up the difference between our program and another when a kid is on the fence. When the program struggles, recruiting struggles. No one can say we aren't struggling right now. If 10 wins is ok with you, then I understand...but there's a hump we need to get over. It took TO what, 12 years to get over that hump? Bo doesn't have that much time. This isn't the 70's, 80's or even the 90's. Recruits have to be wondering if we've peaked, or if we have the staff/system/athletes in place to break over that hump. If not, every one of these recruits will be playing for AT LEAST 1 new head coach in their career. It's not so much just the bowl game, but the losses and the season as a whole - the way we conducted ourselves, the way we lost the games we lost. Like I said, nothing much positive coming out of this season.

 

[The Architect]

Recruits will be more attracted to facilities and relationship with the coaching staff then the win loss record, or how one team faired in a bowl game.

Perhaps teams like Texas, Florida, Alabama, and USC can say that. Not Nebraska IMO. If it had just been a bowl game loss, or a solid 10-4 season highlighted by dominant play and unlimited positive press (like last year) maybe we'd be ok. Not much positive is coming out of NU after the bowl game (or for the entire year to be honest). The bowl game this year just emphasized everything. It's like hitting a fade into the wind; it's going to slice, not fade.

Winning impacts our recruiting dramatically - more so than numerous other teams. We don't have much of a draw outside of the football program to fall back on, or make up the difference between our program and another when a kid is on the fence. When the program struggles, recruiting struggles. No one can say we aren't struggling right now. If 10 wins is ok with you, then I understand...but there's a hump we need to get over. It took TO what, 12 years to get over that hump? Bo doesn't have that much time. This isn't the 70's, 80's or even the 90's. Recruits have to be wondering if we've peaked, or if we have the staff/system/athletes in place to break over that hump. If not, every one of these recruits will be playing for AT LEAST 1 new head coach in their career. It's not so much just the bowl game, but the losses and the season as a whole - the way we conducted ourselves, the way we lost the games we lost. Like I said, nothing much positive coming out of this season.

Those.....ah....wow....hard to read cause :blink:

 

[mmmtodd]

this is an entirely different tangent...

but if Bo doesnt have as much time as TO to produce results, that doesnt fall on him. (unless he's failing a la callahan.)

that falls on those higher up falling into the mentality of win now at all costs, which is like pulling the lever on a slot machine faster.

if nebraska is truly back to being nebraska...cooler heads will prevail, we will focus on settling into the big 10, and go from there.

i say all this wanting watson gone...however...i fear too much is already on the plate, and the longer it goes without word the more obvious it becomes that dramatic, if any, changes are going to be made.

we already pulled the trigger on the stadium expansion. theyre trying to pull the trigger on a much needed basketball arena/practice facility what have you.

nebraska used to lead simply because we did things our own way...thats where true breakthroughs come from. strength program anyone?

now it seems we are trying so damn hard to follow after our setback...always chasing what someone else has or wants...this offense, that coach, this specific type of player, etc.

we used to pride ourselves on making, molding players here...not f'ing recruiting them.

there needs to be some sort of steadiness in the program. those questioning whether bo should maybe go...i'd kick you out of my tailgate. respectfully of course.

im rambling and off topic, and

starting to feel like skersfan

 

[dylan]

great post. the coaches should be re-evaluating all aspects of the program, just as they should every season, but those advocating drastic, reactionary changes need to remember where this program was three years ago. now we've got a great coach and a great AD supporting him. we'll get where we need to be as long as the fans and media can avoid cannibalizing the program first.