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Agree. I wasn't sure where to add this. The fire was talked about here, so this where I dropped it.
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This all happened in a high earthquake zone, where wooden structures tend to survive better than concrete structures.
Pick your poison.
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From author Mike Davis, written about thirty years ago:
"Malibu, meanwhile, is the wildfire capital of North America and, possibly, the world. Fire here has a relentless staccato rhythm, syncopated by landslides and floods. The rugged 22-mile-long coastline is scourged, on the average, by a large fire (one thousand acres plus) every two and a half years, and the entire surface area of the western Santa Monica Mountains has been burnt three times over the twentieth century. At least once a decade a blaze in the chaparral grows into a terrifying firestorm consuming hundreds of homes in an inexorable advance across the mountains to the sea. Since 1970 five such holocausts have destroyed more than one thousand luxury residences and inflicted more than $1 billion in property damage. Some unhappy homeowners have been burnt out twice in a generation, and there are individual patches of coastline or mountain, especially between Point Dume and Tuna Canyon, that have been incinerated as many as eight times since 1930.
"From the time of the Tapias, the owners of Rancho Malibu had recognized that the region’s extraordinary fire hazard was shaped, in large part, by the uncanny alignment of its coastal canyons with the annual “fire winds” from the north: the notorious Santa Anas, which blow primarily between Labor Day and Thanksgiving, just before the first rains. Born from high-pressure areas over the Great Basin and Colorado Plateau, the Santa Anas become hot and dry as they descend avalanche-like into Southern California. The San Fernando Valley acts as a giant bellows, sometimes fanning the Santa Anas to hurricane velocity as they roar seaward through the narrow canyons and rugged defiles of the Santa Monica Mountains. Add a spark to the dense, dry vegetation on such an occasion and the hillsides will explode in uncontrollable wildfire."
"Malibu, meanwhile, is the wildfire capital of North America and, possibly, the world. Fire here has a relentless staccato rhythm, syncopated by landslides and floods. The rugged 22-mile-long coastline is scourged, on the average, by a large fire (one thousand acres plus) every two and a half years, and the entire surface area of the western Santa Monica Mountains has been burnt three times over the twentieth century. At least once a decade a blaze in the chaparral grows into a terrifying firestorm consuming hundreds of homes in an inexorable advance across the mountains to the sea. Since 1970 five such holocausts have destroyed more than one thousand luxury residences and inflicted more than $1 billion in property damage. Some unhappy homeowners have been burnt out twice in a generation, and there are individual patches of coastline or mountain, especially between Point Dume and Tuna Canyon, that have been incinerated as many as eight times since 1930.
"From the time of the Tapias, the owners of Rancho Malibu had recognized that the region’s extraordinary fire hazard was shaped, in large part, by the uncanny alignment of its coastal canyons with the annual “fire winds” from the north: the notorious Santa Anas, which blow primarily between Labor Day and Thanksgiving, just before the first rains. Born from high-pressure areas over the Great Basin and Colorado Plateau, the Santa Anas become hot and dry as they descend avalanche-like into Southern California. The San Fernando Valley acts as a giant bellows, sometimes fanning the Santa Anas to hurricane velocity as they roar seaward through the narrow canyons and rugged defiles of the Santa Monica Mountains. Add a spark to the dense, dry vegetation on such an occasion and the hillsides will explode in uncontrollable wildfire."
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Guy Chamberlin
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A bit skeevy, although the California Fire Foundation is legit, with a 91% charity score. Democrats are fund-raising addicts, but Act Blue would join the vast majority of businesses and organizations that practice online farming for text numbers they can automatically spam if you're dumb enough to agree.
If this gets your knickers in a bunch, how do you and Sunny feel about the crazy circus of outright grift Trump and his MAGA-verse have been practicing for years?
This is an example of what we were talking about a couple weeks back: you reject information passed on by the mainstream media because of perceived bias, but enthusiastically share vague accusatory posts from experts named Sunny and The Rabbit Hole.
I'd actually like to read the article the Rabbit Hole was linking, but it didn't name the source and the X post didn't have any link or copy either. Was the headline supposed to be enough?
Just so we are clear, the “vague accusatory “ posts included a headline from the Liberal Bible called the Atlantic and a post from the Governor of CA and a link to ActBlue. Just to be clear so we are on the same page knowing where the “vague” information originated from.
Funny you should ask. His timeline will tell you
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Right. That was just the headline. The name Atlantic was nowhere to be seen and there was no link to the article itself. I'd like to read it as I consider the Atlantic to be one of the better combinations of vetted reporting and thoughtful analysis. If we can agree that The Atlantic is a worthy source, keep in mind that they have also debunked many things you like to pass around as fact.
As history would suggest, the article will likely provide both criticism of California policies and correction of the disinformation being promoted by the Trump factions, including the third hand posters you like to share with us. Without knowing more, it's the very definition of vague. You've done this before, promoting a headline that plays to your narrative, but not reading the article itself. Devil is in the details, as they say.
As for the Newsom post, there's a fair amount of misdirection and selective outrage from Sunny. The site itself is dedicated to addressing the overt disinformation being spread about California fires intended to hurt Gavin Newsom politically. It's no surprise that Gavin Newsom would respond politically or that any communication through his campaign website would contain a fundraising plea. The prompt to donate to California Fire is a button in the upper right hand corner. The trade off is that your thoughtful donation will provide the contact info that ActBlue will use to spam the living s#!t out of you if they aren't already. If you pay attention, you can opt out at any point. For the record, I did not know that the California Fire Foundation existed, or that it has a 91% nonprofit rating. I still think this is skeevy, but in the same way it's skeevy when practiced by virtually every transaction on the internet. If someone discovers that donations sent to California Fire are ending up in Act Blue coffers, that's an outrage I'm willing to join.
If you're suggesting Sunny also has a history of criticizing Donald Trump's litany of fundraising grifts, I didn't come across it in a cursory scroll.
This really should be in the Media Bias thread, but here we are.
Free will allows you to read the article and get those devil details answered. By the grace of God we are still a free people after the Joe Administration
All the Dems trying to help fill ActBlue’s coffers while promoting donations to fire victims could have easily just sent out notes directing donations go straight to those organizations and bypass the ActBlue grift!
It looks like 3.95% of donation amounts are.
Guy Chamberlin
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Free will allows you to read the article and get those devil details answered. By the grace of God we are still a free people after the Joe Administration
I just don't understand why the original post doesn't mention the publication or provide the link.
I could go on and on if you want. Instead of a cursory scroll, I did a cursory search. Much much faster and gets you want you want to know.