RedDenver
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Gosh, if only there were studies...
HOLC “Redlining” Maps: The Persistent Structure Of Segregation And Economic Inequality
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HOLC “Redlining” Maps: The Persistent Structure Of Segregation And Economic Inequality
The typical homeowner in a neighborhood that was redlined for mortgage lending by the federal government has gained 52% less—or $212,023 less—in personal wealth generated by property value increases than one in a greenlined neighborhood over the last 40 years.
1). What % of homeowners own the same hime for 40 years?
2). What is the condition of the home in those areas in question comparison?
3) what exact neighborhoods are they comparing? Is it apples to apples neighborhoods or apples to oranges neighborhoods.
4) read 1,2,and 3 then we can discuss further
Is this mandated now? I mean, are only minorities allowed to live in those neighborhoods? can people not get good jobs, make money and move?
“Additionally, most of the HOLC graded “Hazardous” areas (nearly 64%) are minority neighborhoods now.”
Dr. Strangelove
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Decades of systemic racism can be fix with some good 'ol American pick-yerself-up-by-the-bootstraps.
There are dozens - if not hundreds of studies that address systemic racism. But there isn't a number we can link for him to believe it. His mind is made up.
But I'll try:
One about healthcare: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953613005121
Education: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=studies+systemic+racism&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3D53baAMW7E_QJ
There are hundreds of these.
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Lorewarn
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RedDenver
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The study is the facts of what has happened. You have to try really hard to miss the point that minorities are far more impacted. Not all systemic racism is laws and mandates.
No you don’t. My question is valid. Why is it that those communities in question are mostly minorities? Why is it that Appalachian families are generationally poor? There is no law or mandate that says they have to live there. There is no law or mandate that says they can only get a certain type of job, make a certain income, or do only so good in school or Not attend state schools, community colleges/trade apprenticeships, when it’s basically paid for by Pell grants, scholarships and working during school?
B.B. Hemingway
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It's almost like accountability and better decision making might matter in this discussion.
Dr. Strangelove
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It's almost like dozens of studies have been done concerning this very topic and you'll ignore them all to support your pre-existing views.
Look, I agree that personal decisions affect outcomes. But in our society minorities - especially black minorities - are not treated equally. They get less representation in government relative to their population, worse prison sentences for the crimes, worse education outcomes because minority school districts receive less funding, etc. The list goes on.
There are hundreds of studies on topics of systemic racism in Healthcare, education, policing, housing, etc. Many of these exist in the South and stem from decades of repression because of Jim Crow laws and other policies in other states dating back relatively recently. It's been essentially 1 generation of black minorities enjoying anything close to equality - that doesn't undo 200 years of laws specifically designed to repress and treat them like inferior p people.
Lorewarn
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Tell me you only want to focus on blaming black people for their problems without telling me you only want to focus on blaming black people for their problems.
Ulty
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@Archy1221 and @B.B. Hemingway:
What are your personal theories regarding:
- Black families having less generational wealth and lower rates of home/land ownership than white families?
- Black people being denied home loans at a higher rate than white people?
- Black Americans being incarcerated at much higher rates than white Americans?
- Black people being arrested for marijuana possession at a much higher rate than white people, despite marijuana usage being similar?
- Black people shot by police at a much higher rate proportionally than white people?
- Black people and other minorities being under-represented in CEO and high-paying management positions?
- Black people and other minorities having higher rates of unemployment?
- Black children born into a poor household being less likely to move into a higher income bracket during their lives, compared to white children?
Why do you think these things have happened historically in our country? And why are they still happening now?
Before or after you answer, feel free to peruse these articles:
26 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America
Systemic Racism: 64 Practical Examples of the Challenges that Face Black Americans
What are your personal theories regarding:
- Black families having less generational wealth and lower rates of home/land ownership than white families?
- Black people being denied home loans at a higher rate than white people?
- Black Americans being incarcerated at much higher rates than white Americans?
- Black people being arrested for marijuana possession at a much higher rate than white people, despite marijuana usage being similar?
- Black people shot by police at a much higher rate proportionally than white people?
- Black people and other minorities being under-represented in CEO and high-paying management positions?
- Black people and other minorities having higher rates of unemployment?
- Black children born into a poor household being less likely to move into a higher income bracket during their lives, compared to white children?
Why do you think these things have happened historically in our country? And why are they still happening now?
Before or after you answer, feel free to peruse these articles:
26 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America
Systemic Racism: 64 Practical Examples of the Challenges that Face Black Americans
RedDenver
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I'm not sure if you two are really that ignorant of the history of our country or actually support continued systemic racism. There's dozens of studies showing you're wrong, and just learning about redlining and it's after effects would show it to you.
Tell me you have nothing of substance to add to the conversation without telling you having nothing of substance to add to the conversation.
I’m not sure you actually understand what either of are saying. I looked at the study you shared and had a basic thought that you don’t have an answer for aside from basically saying they have no chance since our country had a racist past. Past being the key word. It’s as if someone who is poor is just shut out of luck I guess. The minority families that I know well and are doing good financially now who came from inner city KCK don’t actually exist I guess. My new Vietnamese neighbor who came from nothing doesn’t actually exist. My old Indian neighbor who’s family is dirt poor in India doesn’t exist.
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