The Democrat Utopia

Archy1221 said:
The workers had it good….until they didn’t.  As one reply said, now they are free to start their own cafe’s and operate them the way they want.  
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was it the union or the current state of the economy that forced the closures?   and i have never heard of that company...how big is it?  or was it?

 
commando said:
the workers had it so good...being paid minimum wage?

https://bsky.app/profile/peark.es/post/3lmqk5e3smc2a

"Café Cerés charges $16 for a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich but refuses to pay its baristas more than minimum wage. 
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Meh....I support negotiations between employees and management.  But, there are times employees FAFO.  If these cafes were very profitable, management would have kept them open with the demand for a higher wage.  They might not have wanted to pay the higher wage.  But, they would have.

Companies really don't like shutting down businesses just because they don't like what employees demand.  But, there are times where the employees demand too much and it doesn't make having the business profitable anymore.

 
BigRedBuster said:
Meh....I support negotiations between employees and management.  But, there are times employees FAFO.  If these cafes were very profitable, management would have kept them open with the demand for a higher wage.  They might not have wanted to pay the higher wage.  But, they would have.

Companies really don't like shutting down businesses just because they don't like what employees demand.  But, there are times where the employees demand too much and it doesn't make having the business profitable anymore.
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i am stating that minimum wage isn't exactly having it so good.

 
Archy1221 said:
The workers had it good….until they didn’t.  As one reply said, now they are free to start their own cafe’s and operate them the way they want.  
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Sure, you, me, Mark Atwood and Karl Marx see the benefit of letting the workers control the means of production, but my guess is that a group of minimum wage workers would lack the capital to simply reboot the enterprise in their name. Although some bakeries have found success this way, being employee-owned from the start. 

Turns out the coffee shop owner, also a renowned chef and restauranteur, says high end coffee shops have too many customers staying too long and spending too little money compared to his more profitable restaurants. The cost of doing business in liberal Minneapolis no doubt played a part, but the problem was mostly the economy of scale.

https://tcbmag.com/cafe-ceres-to-close/

 
You gotta remember that a lot of people that take up space/tables in an expensive coffee shop are ALSO either...

"Working from home"

OR

"Writing a novel"

OR

"Writing a screenplay"

I mean, Weekend at Bernies III:  Still Dead But Having Fun!

Is not going to write itself!  

 
BigRedBuster said:
Meh....I support negotiations between employees and management.  But, there are times employees FAFO.  If these cafes were very profitable, management would have kept them open with the demand for a higher wage.  They might not have wanted to pay the higher wage.  But, they would have.

Companies really don't like shutting down businesses just because they don't like what employees demand.  But, there are times where the employees demand too much and it doesn't make having the business profitable anymore.
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Yep!

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Sure, you, me, Mark Atwood and Karl Marx see the benefit of letting the workers control the means of production, but my guess is that a group of minimum wage workers would lack the capital to simply reboot the enterprise in their name. Although some bakeries have found success this way, being employee-owned from the start. 

Turns out the coffee shop owner, also a renowned chef and restauranteur, says high end coffee shops have too many customers staying too long and spending too little money compared to his more profitable restaurants. The cost of doing business in liberal Minneapolis no doubt played a part, but the problem was mostly the economy of scale.

https://tcbmag.com/cafe-ceres-to-close/
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So, with the employee demands, it wasn't profitable to keep them open, so they closed them.

Sounds about right.

 
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