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Redux

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I don't think anyone could ever claim that Tommy got much consistent instruction last year. In some interviews, coaches talked about him running less and throwing the ball away more. In others, they wanted the opposite.

Or at least according to the people who can interpret sideline hand motions....
DURRRRRRRP!

 
Things I've earned today:

Bo Pelini was fired because ADSE hated him and that's the only reason.

Bo didn't never say nuttin bad bout da fans, he liked em just fine.

Tim Beck was a fine contributor to this program and doesn't deserve all the crap he was given.

John Papuchis goes by the alias cm husker on the internet.

 
Things I've earned today:

Bo Pelini was fired because ADSE hated him and that's the only reason.

Bo didn't never say nuttin bad bout da fans, he liked em just fine.

Tim Beck was a fine contributor to this program and doesn't deserve all the crap he was given.

John Papuchis goes by the alias cm husker on the internet.
+potato

Things I learned today:

Redux can't spell "learned".

Redux likes to be dishonest and mischaracterize or fabricate actual events and misrepresent others' posts.

And i learned he won't respond to this because he has me on ignore.

 
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Speaking of sycophants, none of the Langs disciples have even tried to address the topic at hand.

Quite telling.
two questions..

1) Do you believe Nebraska can only win with Tom system of the 90's?

2) Do you believe that Nebraska had the success it did because TO was a great coach, and made changes when needed, or do you believe it was the base system of running the ball?

Personally, I believe it was more TO than the system he ran, though I 100% believe we need to run the ball. If I am not mistaken TO said he likes aspects of the spread offense.

I think the combination of the two could be successful at NU!
To answer (1), no, I don't think we can or should replicate his system from the 90s, though I do think it would work today. More than anything, I think NU needs to employ a "heavy" rather than "balanced" system that utilizes a playmaker, rather than game manager, at the QB position. I prefer run heavy for a number of reasons, but if people want to go pass heavy, I wouldn't be against it. I'd look at a lot of coaches who've achieved offensive success with less than ideal recruiting (e.g., Briles, leech, some of the guys at service academies, guys at Oregon early on in their success, even TO for many of his years). I'm of the basic opinion that year in and year out, NU will be between 20 and 30 in terms of recruiting, with some bounces up and falls down occasionally based on circumstance (eg, bad year of local talent or excitement of a new system ala '05).

Therefore, NU needs to be asymmetrical in its strategies. It can't hope to have much consistent success going toe to toe with the USCs and Alabama's of the world. I don't even think they can do that going up against the michigans and Michigan states of the world.

I also like the idea of a "chunk play" offense that cuts down on reads and uses players interchangeably rather than fundamentally changes based on the players' ability. That's why I like the option as a component of offense and the way it cleans up reads for guys in the passing game by forcing a man out of coverage.

(2) Nebraska had the success we did for a number of reasons, but mainly because we had a great coach. In my opinion, the best to ever coach because of what he accomplished in Nebraska. I think any coach who comes here should borrow heavily from his blueprint. I'm sure there are 50 ways to skin a cat, but there aren't that many ways to grind out championships in Lincoln, so why reinvent the wheel.

All of that said, with NU positioned the way it is, Riley can run his system and win 9-10 games a year, I think. And if he does that, we shouldn't fire him. I just don't see NU recruiting consistently well enough to win championships with that system, though I do think we can win with that same talent using a more creative system.
Please, correct me if I'm wrong here, but is he not saying in his first point that he would prefer a heavy based system and to support it we should concede our recruiting down to 20th-30th ranked classes instead of striving to land better recruits because somehow it will make the system better?
That's it, someone trace the IP of this dude, it HAS to be f'ing Bo Pelini in Ohio.

 
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Speaking of sycophants, none of the Langs disciples have even tried to address the topic at hand.

Quite telling.
two questions..

1) Do you believe Nebraska can only win with Tom system of the 90's?

2) Do you believe that Nebraska had the success it did because TO was a great coach, and made changes when needed, or do you believe it was the base system of running the ball?

Personally, I believe it was more TO than the system he ran, though I 100% believe we need to run the ball. If I am not mistaken TO said he likes aspects of the spread offense.

I think the combination of the two could be successful at NU!
To answer (1), no, I don't think we can or should replicate his system from the 90s, though I do think it would work today. More than anything, I think NU needs to employ a "heavy" rather than "balanced" system that utilizes a playmaker, rather than game manager, at the QB position. I prefer run heavy for a number of reasons, but if people want to go pass heavy, I wouldn't be against it. I'd look at a lot of coaches who've achieved offensive success with less than ideal recruiting (e.g., Briles, leech, some of the guys at service academies, guys at Oregon early on in their success, even TO for many of his years).I'm of the basic opinion that year in and year out, NU will be between 20 and 30 in terms of recruiting, with some bounces up and falls down occasionally based on circumstance (eg, bad year of local talent or excitement of a new system ala '05).

Therefore, NU needs to be asymmetrical in its strategies. It can't hope to have much consistent success going toe to toe with the USCs and Alabama's of the world. I don't even think they can do that going up against the michigans and Michigan states of the world.

I also like the idea of a "chunk play" offense that cuts down on reads and uses players interchangeably rather than fundamentally changes based on the players' ability. That's why I like the option as a component of offense and the way it cleans up reads for guys in the passing game by forcing a man out of coverage.

(2) Nebraska had the success we did for a number of reasons, but mainly because we had a great coach. In my opinion, the best to ever coach because of what he accomplished in Nebraska. I think any coach who comes here should borrow heavily from his blueprint. I'm sure there are 50 ways to skin a cat, but there aren't that many ways to grind out championships in Lincoln, so why reinvent the wheel.

All of that said, with NU positioned the way it is, Riley can run his system and win 9-10 games a year, I think. And if he does that, we shouldn't fire him. I just don't see NU recruiting consistently well enough to win championships with that system, though I do think we can win with that same talent using a more creative system.
Please, correct me if I'm wrong here, but is he not saying in his first point that he would prefer a heavy based system and to support it we should concede our recruiting down to 20th-30th ranked classes instead of striving to land better recruits because somehow it will make the system better?
That's it, someone trace the IP of this dude, it HAS to be f'ing Bo Pelini in Ohio.
i highlighted what has me a bit lost

 
You guys be careful. Seriously. Reading that crap, and trying to make sense of it, can't be good for you. Save yourselves while you can.

 
Did he actually coach?
If you talking about cm, he said he has. He also played college ball, was in the military, is a doctor working on a herpes vaccine and is the adviser to the Pope.

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His defense basically made Melvin Gordon a heisman candidate and millionaire in a matter of 3 quarters.
Is your contention that Melvin Gordon wasn't highly regarded before that game?
Yes. But 408 yards later he was squarely in the heisman race and shot up draft boards. Hown as a so called Husker fan can you even try to defend such a sh**ty performance?
Because I don't take things like a bad performance personally. Not even a 40-15 shellacking by Kansas (a first loss to them in forever) or a 70-10 shelling against Texas Tech.

Stuff happens. It amuses me that the "pound my chest or hang my head" Husker fans still feel like those games are personal insults or shameful to them.

And anyone who doesn't realize Melvin Gordon was a pre season everything is apparently just a stupid fan.
Trying to excuse our defense allowing one player to rack up 400+ rushing yards against us in one game.

Derp!

Such weird brand of egocentricism.

Perhaps it's common, but it's certainly weird.
Trying to ignore the 408 debacle by pooping on the "we" term Husker fans use when referencing the team.

Duuuuurrrrrp

 
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