The Environment

You cannot simultaneously cheer that on and be opposed to the outsize influence of big-money industry lobbies.

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RedDenver said:
BigRedBuster said:
https://twitter.com/npr/status/865349280906727424
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What kind of upside down world do we live in where Big Oil is defending climate change?
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This is what happens when one company realizes the wrtting is on the wall and it would be better for them to invest in the future rather than become a dinosaur by continuing to use dinosaurs. Shell is one fossil fuel company who is investing in green energy. They don't want to get screwed over if everyone else doesn't have to do it.
 
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Have to admit that this surprised me. I was convinced that it was the oil companies who were financing the anti-global warming fight with propaganda.

Maybe they were for a long time and started to realize they were losing and needed to jump on board.

 
Without knowing too much more about this, I'd take it with a grain of salt. The cable companies put out a big ad blast recently about how they were staunch supporters of net neutrality...for loose definitions of net neutrality that include lobbying their asses off to dismantle it.

Granted, the companies named here appear to be in favor of the Paris accord, if only for the reason of keeping things predictable. And that's an important industry consideration, so I don't hold it against them.

It's like how the health care industry is wringing their hands over the Trump administration's incoherent messaging on the ACA. Of course these guys aren't that interested in looking out for the system as a whole, but pick something and let them know what the rules are. Similarly, I'm sure these companies would love to be free of regulations -- but globally the tide has turned.

 
https://thinkprogress.org/fossil-fuel-groups-try-to-withdraw-from-climate-lawsuit-95d6c705ba5b

Three fossil fuel industry groups are seeking to withdraw from a landmark climate change lawsuit — brought against the federal government by a group of youth plaintiffs — filing motions to withdraw on the same day that crucial discovery was required in the case.
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Earlier...

What is perhaps most surprising about the trade group’s desire to withdraw from the case is the fervor with which they fought to be included in the case in the first place. In November of 2015, the three trade groups filed a motion to intervene in the case, arguing that the case was a “direct threat to [their] businesses.”

“The impacts [of this lawsuit] could impair the interests of virtually the entire swatch of the NAM, AFPM, and API’s members,” the motion read. “For all these reasons, it is critical that they have the opportunity to intervene.”
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The best way to preserve the environment is to let the market take its course, naturally...

 
Ahhh, API. The American Petroleum Institute.

They're the ones who brought us such classics as this blatant everyman appeal piece, chalk full of buzzwords, designed to convince you big Energy is just so gosh darn American, they only want to help people like you and totally don't want to wreck the environment!

 
F#*$. This guys is so f#*$ing stupid. He's doing irreparable harm to our planet if he follows through on this.

Hope those short term economic boosts for the wealthy are worth it. Because this move absolutely hoses future generations. Our kids and their kids and so on deserve better than this bloated, arrogant idiot is giving them.


 
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It's like...

We've got a bunch of people from a bunch of different countries in a room with no windows. Everyone is holding their farts in so everyone in the room doesn't die of carbon monoxide poison. The American (Trump) ate a bunch of spicy food for lunch so his would-be farts are far more powerful and damaging than the others'.

Then Trump pulls down his pants and takes a giant dump in the middle of the room.

 
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