TGHusker
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No problem wt both. Joe Scarborough on the Morning Joe show today said impeachment in 6 months if Trump and team ignores courts and violate their stays. Related to your OP.
The First Trump Impeachment Thread
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BigRedBuster
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I was telling people during the election that it didn't matter who won (Hillary or Trump) the Republicans would impeach them.
IF this happens, I hope it is not something that is easily excused or ignored by Trump supporters. If he is going to be impeached, I want it to be something that is so big that nobody can ignore it.
That isn't because I want something that bad to happen. It's because if he is impeached by something like what is discussed in the OP, I can see the Trump supporters digging in their heels even more and this thing blowing up into an extremely violent situation.
From where I'm sitting, and the discussions I have had with died in the wool Trump supporters, they will go down swinging with this guy. I don't understand it. But, that's the feeling I get.
IF this happens, I hope it is not something that is easily excused or ignored by Trump supporters. If he is going to be impeached, I want it to be something that is so big that nobody can ignore it.
That isn't because I want something that bad to happen. It's because if he is impeached by something like what is discussed in the OP, I can see the Trump supporters digging in their heels even more and this thing blowing up into an extremely violent situation.
From where I'm sitting, and the discussions I have had with died in the wool Trump supporters, they will go down swinging with this guy. I don't understand it. But, that's the feeling I get.
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Danny Bateman
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Pence is wrong within the normal parameters.
Plus, as an added benefit, for those who want to move on from this administration, Pence would be much more predictable in office and have a much harder time appealing to disaffected moderates. The disaffected largely went to Trump because they felt no one else cared about them and he represented an opportunity to blow up the system that had forgotten them. He openly called for their vote to go shake things up.
Pence doesn't have that quality. If he goes full blown social conservative and starts churning out religious freedom laws, the same thing will happen that happened in Indiana. People would feel discriminated against, it will hurt the economy, his popularity will sink, and you can tie those as an electoral anchor around his neck.
You can also undo the damage of a Pence a lot easier than an economic collapse or huge foreign policy blunders Trump could create.
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BigRedBuster
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This is where I'm at with this.
People can disagree with Pence on issues. However, at least he is within the realm of reality with Presidential conduct, mode of accomplishing goals and dealing with people he disagrees with and foreign governments.
Lil' Red
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I agree. My main concern with Pence is that the public will be so relieved about having a president that is wrong within the normal parameters that they will not be as energized to fight his more insane policies as hard as they do with Trump. I think he'd still be a definite upgrade though.
Danny Bateman
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I mean, you could well be right. It shocked me how receptive people were to someone like Pence with insane far-right policy prescriptions who lied nearly as much as Trump merely as an artifact of not being as crazy as his boss.
But I still think Clinton could've probably beaten Ted Cruz had he been the nominee instead of Trump. I view Cruz and Pence very similarly. Cruz and his policies had absolutely no appeal out east or even in places like Ohio and Michigan. Although Pence is probably more likable than Cruz, that's a really low bar.
I think these far-right ideologues would have a much tougher time in swing states. By virtue of that, Pence could still be a desirable opponent. And I'd rather Pence sooner than later.. both to limit the damage Trump could do and to yolk some of Pence's policies to him by the time 2020 rolls around.
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TGHusker
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I'm in agreement on this. I think Pence would be a definite upgrade to Trump. He understands how govt works. Those of you who fear his social policies will have to remember that all of that runs through Congress where everything is moderated. I, of course, am very happy that he is Pro-life however, I think he understands that governing in DC is a lot different than governing in an individual state. Pence would have more of the demeanor and respect for tradition that Trump lacks. Also, the tweats would stop!!
I would not be surprised to hear of Repubs behind the scenes trying to unearth more junk against Trump/Flynn, etc just to get this behind them as soon as possible. No I don't want an impeachment but I don't want this to be our on going news cycle - a cycle full of tweats, thin skinned renouncing of people who may disagree with you, etc.
Trump and team need to slow the car down to 40 mph and start walking in some humility and get off the blame game - they all are getting a 'persecuted personality complex'. It would be better to see them sitting down wt congress and discussing solutions in a bi-partisan manner and get the attention off of self. Over exposure is killing their message and momentum to getting things done.
Danny Bateman
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Given your druthers, who would you have liked to see get elected that was actually in the field of candidates?
How about those who didn't run? Who'd be your ideal POTUS?
knapplc
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Clinton among the group that was actually running, for several reasons. One of the biggest for the purposes of HuskerBoard would be that all of those people who feel disaffected by P&R would see that we're all in opposition to Clinton, too. It's not just Trump, it's all of them. Clinton was just the least odious of the final two candidates.
My ideal POTUS probably doesn't exist. Certainly there isn't one I could point to inside the current political machine. I want someone who understands that America is a diverse nation made stronger by its diversity, not weakened because we aren't all the same. I want someone who will endeavor to work with both parties, but who will not toe their party's line. Partisan politics will kill this country, and we need a president who won't fuel that fire.