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Decked said:
Some days he looks okay and sometimes he seems to look like he couldn't order an ice cream cone at McDonald's. At the end of the day he wasn't making decisions. 
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Oh for sure he was not really "in charge" there is zero doubt about that.  Anyone that thinks he was running the country is insane.

They just totally dropped the ball that night.  I know what happened...some "handler" got nervous and thought Joe needed More/Less of something and it messed with his cocktail.  That is all, that is totally what it was.  

 
teachercd said:
Oh for sure he was not really "in charge" there is zero doubt about that.  Anyone that thinks he was running the country is insane.

They just totally dropped the ball that night.  I know what happened...some "handler" got nervous and thought Joe needed More/Less of something and it messed with his cocktail.  That is all, that is totally what it was.  
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Pretty s#!tty of the system that the last four candidates have been 

Harris (Unpopular round 1/Lack of policy but was cool with influencers)

Biden (Nursing home diaper pooper)

Trump (Moron/old/touchy)

Clinton (Career witch)

3/4 of them should be too old to even run. And Harris was unpopular when she ran the first time.

 
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Decked said:
Pretty s#!tty of the system that the last four candidates have been 

Harris (Unpopular round 1/Lack of policy but was cool with influencers)

Biden (Nursing home diaper pooper)

Trump (Moron/old/touchy)

Clinton (Career witch)

3/4 of them should be too old to even run. And Harris was unpopular when she ran the first time.
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ding, ding, ding we have winner.

 
Decked said:
Pretty s#!tty of the system that the last four candidates have been 

Harris (Unpopular round 1/Lack of policy but was cool with influencers)

Biden (Nursing home diaper pooper)

Trump (Moron/old/touchy)

Clinton (Career witch)

3/4 of them should be too old to even run. And Harris was unpopular when she ran the first time.
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But only one of them is a felon, has been known to cheat small businesses, cheat municipalities, and is in bed with Russia. And the Americans who are constantly both-sidesing these candidates helped elect this guy - twice! - even though the second time he had already been an impeached president, had led an attempted coup on the 2020 elections, and was working with the architects of Project 2025.

These may be four bad candidates, but they are not equally bad. One is by orders of magnitude worse than the others.

Both-sidesing is one of the things that landed us here.

 
Decked said:
Pretty s#!tty of the system that the last four candidates have been 

Harris (Unpopular round 1/Lack of policy but was cool with influencers)

Biden (Nursing home diaper pooper)

Trump (Moron/old/touchy)

Clinton (Career witch)

3/4 of them should be too old to even run. And Harris was unpopular when she ran the first time.
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Don't worry. We upgraded on that front!

Literally from today:

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TGHusker said:
So while President Musk is speaking VP Trump is sleeping.  We are in deep sh&t. 
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Again, we just need to stop electing old people.  Old people should be retired and relaxing.  They should be complaining about the thermostat and the length of hair on boys.

We have already excepted the fact that it is okay to be ageist by saying you have to be 35 to be the Prez...so we should just be a little more ageist and say you can't be over the age of 65 either.

 
I don't think its a matter of age. There are plenty of perfectly sharp seniors loaded with institutional knowledge, and young candidates who are dumb as rocks and reckless in their ambition. 

Mostly we need candidates who speak the truth like normal humans, rather than parrot talking points like artificial gospel preachers, then ask you for money. 

Bernie Sanders is old and many consider him extreme, but when given an hour on Joe Rogan even Joe Rogan decided he'd vote for him. Let me know anything Bernie says here that you find wrong, extreme, or elderly. For that matter, listen to how thoughtful and respectfully Rogan conducts the interview. 



 
Exception and rule.

Bernie is a great speaker and very sharp.   Again, the exception to the rule.  He is also kind of funny.  

We have a 35 year age rule in place for no reason.  So we need a 65 year age rule for a very good reason.  Old people tend to get tired and forgetful and worn out.  Nothing wrong with that, totally normal. 

Also, I liked the parts of that interview that I did see.  I also like that now some of you are all of a sudden fans of Joe Rogan. All his interviews are the same, he is always very polite and respectful. #Interesting.  

 
Arguments for a Maximum Age Limit:


  • Cognitive and Physical Decline – As people age, there’s a higher risk of health issues that could impact decision-making and leadership abilities.
  • Generational Representation – Younger generations may feel underrepresented if leaders are consistently from much older age groups.
  • Consistency with Other Age Limits – There are mandatory retirement ages in some professions (pilots, judges in certain states), so why not for the most powerful position in the country?


Arguments Against a Maximum Age Limit:


  • Experience and Wisdom – Older leaders bring decades of knowledge, political skill, and historical perspective.
  • Voter Choice – Citizens should have the right to elect whoever they believe is the best candidate, regardless of age.
  • Age Doesn’t Always Equal Incompetence – Some people in their 80s remain sharp, while others decline earlier. A blanket rule might not be fair.

Some have suggested cognitive or health tests instead of a strict age cap. What do you think—should there be a max age, or should voters decide?

 
teachercd said:
Exception and rule.

Bernie is a great speaker and very sharp.   Again, the exception to the rule.  He is also kind of funny.  

We have a 35 year age rule in place for no reason.  So we need a 65 year age rule for a very good reason.  Old people tend to get tired and forgetful and worn out.  Nothing wrong with that, totally normal. 

Also, I liked the parts of that interview that I did see.  I also like that now some of you are all of a sudden fans of Joe Rogan. All his interviews are the same, he is always very polite and respectful. #Interesting.  
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I'm not the first to come to Joe Rogan's defense. He maintains a great guest list and conducts honest, real-world interviews.

If Joe takes heat, it's because having conducted great interviews with smart people, he often retreats to less substantiated opinions from crackpots. He hasn't discouraged the bro culture of right leaning conspiracy theorists that have fueled much of his popularity, and steering the independent and libertarian into Trump votes via chronic misinformation is going to earn you some criticism.  

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I'm not the first to come to Joe Rogan's defense. He maintains a great guest list and conducts honest, real-world interviews.

If Joe takes heat, it's because having conducted great interviews with smart people, he often retreats to less substantiated opinions from crackpots. He hasn't discouraged the bro culture of right leaning conspiracy theorists that have fueled much of his popularity, and steering the independent and libertarian into Trump votes via chronic misinformation is going to earn you some criticism.  
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Ah, so Rogan is great when he has guests you approve of, but the moment he platforms someone outside of that, he’s suddenly responsible for ‘steering’ people the wrong way? It’s interesting how he’s praised for honest, real-world interviews—until they don’t fit a certain narrative. Either he’s a solid interviewer who lets his guests speak, or he’s not. Can’t have it both ways.

(Please note, this is not ME, this is what AI had to say)

 
This is what my AI said:

Joe Rogan, host of "The Joe Rogan Experience," continues to be a significant and polarizing figure in media and culture. His podcast, known for its extensive and unfiltered discussions, has become a major platform influencing public opinion, especially among young men and right-leaning audiences.

Political Influence and Media Presence

In October 2024, Rogan conducted a three-hour interview with Donald Trump, which many analysts believe played a crucial role in Trump's subsequent electoral victory. This event underscored Rogan's substantial impact on political discourse and highlighted the growing importance of alternative media platforms in shaping political outcomes. The interview's success also sparked discussions about the Democratic Party's need to engage more effectively with new media to reach younger demographics.

thetimes.co.uk
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Controversies and Public Perception

Rogan's approach to free speech and his willingness to explore controversial topics have attracted both support and criticism. He has been accused of spreading misinformation on various subjects, including COVID-19 and transgender issues. For instance, he has faced backlash for his views on transgender athletes competing in women's sports.

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Additionally, his promotion of certain diets, such as the carnivore diet, has raised health concerns among medical professionals.

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Cultural Impact and Audience Engagement

Despite controversies, Rogan maintains a loyal and diverse audience. His podcast's format, featuring long-form conversations with a wide range of guests, appeals to listeners seeking in-depth discussions often absent from mainstream media. This approach has resonated with individuals feeling alienated by traditional media outlets, contributing to his widespread popularity.

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Recent Developments

In recent discussions, Rogan has been labeled as part of a right-wing media ecosystem by figures like Jen Psaki. However, commentators such as Jon Stewart have challenged this characterization, suggesting that Rogan's content aligns more with a libertarian comedic perspective rather than a strictly conservative agenda.

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Overall, Joe Rogan remains a complex and influential figure whose platform continues to shape cultural and political conversations in contemporary society.

I agree that he is much more of a liberterian.  He is liberal on some stuff, and conservative on other stuff.  My sone has listened to him religiously for several years.

 
teachercd said:
Ah, so Rogan is great when he has guests you approve of, but the moment he platforms someone outside of that, he’s suddenly responsible for ‘steering’ people the wrong way? It’s interesting how he’s praised for honest, real-world interviews—until they don’t fit a certain narrative. Either he’s a solid interviewer who lets his guests speak, or he’s not. Can’t have it both ways.

(Please note, this is not ME, this is what AI had to say)
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Yeah, I've noticed your growing reliance on Ai for even the simplest interactions. You are the future indeed.

Here's what actual intelligence might tell you:  you absolutely can have it both ways, a solid interviewer who lets all his guests speak, but who often sides with misinformation and disingenuous actors on the other parts of his show, where he's vamping with buddies and offering opinions. 

It merely requires you to believe that facts still exist and some sources are wiser than others. Your particular AI is clearly an idiot.

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Yeah, I've noticed your growing reliance on Ai for even the simplest interactions. You are the future indeed.

Here's what actual intelligence might tell you:  you absolutely can have it both ways, a solid interviewer who lets all his guests speak, but who often sides with misinformation and disingenuous actors on the other parts of his show, where he's vamping with buddies and offering opinions. 

It merely requires you to believe that facts still exist and some sources are wiser than others. Your particular AI is clearly an idiot.
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I mean...you are the one arguing with it.  

 
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