The only thing I'm encouraged about is............

Rather than being encouraged by the "Fire", I think it is another indication this team is near total panic and meltdown if they don't get the ship righted very quickly. Many won't like this but I think this is where TO would have this team competing much better. Now we don't have the athletes and the skill players across the board to compete at the high level that we thought we could just weeks ago.

But I don't think Bo has the temperment that helps a team deal with adversity like TO and some other coaches. Screaming and yelling at each other perhaps reflects the "fire" Bo brings to the team when things go badly. I am concerned of a total meltdown with a total loss of team unity and confidence in the coaching staff by the players. This could make for an ugly rest of the season with a team defeated before the game begins.

I hope I am wrong and our team comes out with more discipline and focus.
My thought exactly

They seem to be in a state of chaos. I agree about Bo, too. His fire is great in some situations, but this is not one of them. I hope he adjusts himself before things really get out of control.
No, they don't seem to be in a state of chaos....Maybe you think there's chaos within the program in your head, because you're the type that panics at a loss, so if you're panicing, the whole program is panicing.

But that's not true. This program is fine, the team unity is fine, and they haven't shown anything to prove otherwise. What, just because an olineman gets in a running back's face after a fumble means the wheels are falling off? I'm sorry, but now.

Football is a game of emotions, there is going to be some yelling and screaming. I've watched many games where players of the same team get in each other's faces...doesn't mean crap. If you watch practices, you'd see that crap all the time.

So yes, you are wrong.
Someone from your own team gets in your face, its showing you your not doing right. I for one would like a teammate to "pump up" a player for once other then a coach. He is a freshman so this is somthing he can learn from.

 
Pelini voiced some displeasure with the actions of offensive guard Keith Williams, who was all over Dontrayevous Robinson after the freshman I-back fumbled in the third quarter against ISU.
Williams needed to be pulled away by offensive tackle Marcel Jones.

“It's been addressed,'' Pelini said. “If you do something like that, you got to do it in the right way. No one felt worse about that fumble than Dontrayevous, who's playing hard and he didn't want to fumble. Anybody that does it, you've got to make sure you look in the mirror, too.''
It's obvious the offense needs leaders, but it's also obvious Pelini doesn't want players to get in the face of one another when mistakes are made. Does Pelini want the silent-type of leaders whom lead by example rather than bravado?

Reading Pelini's reaction to Williams' actions surprised me. Now, I AM NOT disagreeing with Pelini in any way or suggesting that players ought to get on one another like that. But would it be good for this offense to have players that hold one another accountable for silly mistakes, players that encourage one another to step it up to the next level? You'd assume the answer is yes - so my questions are twofold: 1) who should these offensive leaders be; and 2) what type of leader does Pelini really want?

GO BIG RED
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I have no problem with teammates getting in each others face and holding each other accountable as long as they do it man to man like Williams did. I respect it more than if they did it behind each others back or in the media. Anyone who's played before knows that these things happen because emotions are so high. I don't think it's a big deal as long as you can back it up on the field.

 
I didn't see Williams get in Lee's face for throwing two INTs or Helu's for two fumbled balls, but he jumps all over Tray who was trying to get extra yards and was held up while the other guys ripped the ball out...? That "in the face" routine is for the coaches to do.

 
I think it was a B.S. move by Williams and his a$$ would've been benched for the rest of the game if I was the O-line coach. It's not his place to get in a teammates face and run his chops and all it does is divide a team. The O-line has no room to get in anyone's face, they've been the base of all the problems on offense IMO.

 
Outside of some very stupid/costly penalties and the meh RT-position where we really miss Burkes I think the o-line takes too much crap. They get little help. D's don't respect our vertical passing-game and stack-up to stop the run and dink-passes, but we don't stick with the TE-heavy sets that have worked well and give the line a hand against all the guys in the box. Plus Zach doesn't buy time in the pocket or tuck-and-run like he should.
I agree. Let's put the offensive line in a spot to succeed instead of being so one dimensional and predictable and see if their play improves.

 
I didn't see Williams do this. I think it's wrong, however I think it's even more wrong for Bo to point it out in the media, especially if you saw Bo and how he reacted to Coach Eck after the fake punt.

Bo was waaaaay out of line for way to long.

Players follow their coaches leads

 
I didn't see Williams get in Lee's face for throwing two INTs or Helu's for two fumbled balls, but he jumps all over Tray who was trying to get extra yards and was held up while the other guys ripped the ball out...? That "in the face" routine is for the coaches to do.
Those other guys weren't showboating. There is the difference.

 
I think it was a B.S. move by Williams and his a$$ would've been benched for the rest of the game if I was the O-line coach. It's not his place to get in a teammates face and run his chops and all it does is divide a team. The O-line has no room to get in anyone's face, they've been the base of all the problems on offense IMO.

Off topic, but was just going to say that I like the new avatar sig. Bob Sanders is nasty on the field.

 
god we only hope that from now on when he runs the ball he is not thinking about that o line getting mad at him.. if he is thinking about fumbling then he wont run as hard.. he fumbled once. hopefully its not a problem for him we will soon find out. he is a very good football player and i hope his confidence was not hurt from this.. he will run all over baylor!!! 150+ yards!!!!

 
I think it was a B.S. move by Williams and his a$$ would've been benched for the rest of the game if I was the O-line coach. It's not his place to get in a teammates face and run his chops and all it does is divide a team. The O-line has no room to get in anyone's face, they've been the base of all the problems on offense IMO.

Off topic, but was just going to say that I like the new avatar sig. Bob Sanders is nasty on the field.
Thanks and yes he is, anyone who gets the nickname the eraser on the football field has punished some people.
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