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RedDenver said:
@Archy1221, are the guard rails still fully intact?
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Backstory that Edward won’t tell you.  
 


The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building earlier on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protests over immigration raids
 

Reuters images showed Marines apprehending the man, restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security.
Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances."
"Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.
 
Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his way to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.
 

Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said he was treated "very fairly."
"They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and Portuguese descent
 

The 200 Marines and more than 2,000 National Guard now deployed to Los Angeles are tasked with protecting federal property and federal personnel. They will be joined by an additional 500 Marines and 2,000 more National Guard soldiers.
This means that they will accompany ICE agents on raids, officials have said.
The troops are authorized to detain people who pose a threat to federal personnel or property, but only until police can arrest them. Military officials are not allowed to carry out arrests themselves.


 
Archy1221 said:
Backstory that Edward won’t tell you.  
 


The incident took place at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles where Marines took charge of the mission to protect the building earlier on Friday, in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protests over immigration raids
 

Reuters images showed Marines apprehending the man, restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security.
Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances."
"Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.
 
Speaking to reporters after he was released, the civilian identified himself as Marcos Leao, 27. Leao said he was an Army veteran on his way to an office of the Department of Veterans Affairs when he crossed a yellow tape boundary and was asked to stop.
 

Leao, who gained his U.S. citizenship through military service, said he was treated "very fairly."
"They're just doing their job," said Leao, who is of Angolan and Portuguese descent
 

The 200 Marines and more than 2,000 National Guard now deployed to Los Angeles are tasked with protecting federal property and federal personnel. They will be joined by an additional 500 Marines and 2,000 more National Guard soldiers.
This means that they will accompany ICE agents on raids, officials have said.
The troops are authorized to detain people who pose a threat to federal personnel or property, but only until police can arrest them. Military officials are not allowed to carry out arrests themselves.
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Are you posting this trying to show this is somehow OK?

 
Archy1221 said:
I’m posting to show what a clown Edward is as he doesn’t provide any context to a few second clip on X  so he can monetize it.  
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And what context are you providing?  
 

that he was a vet that was simply going to the federal building where he gets his VA benefits??  Or, that he was detained by marines who legally shouldn’t be doing that?  
 

Great job!!!  You basically made Ed’s point. 
 

:clap

 
BigRedBuster said:
And what context are you providing?  
 

that he was a vet that was simply going to the federal building where he gets his VA benefits??  Or, that he was detained by marines who legally shouldn’t be doing that?  
 

Great job!!!  You basically made Ed’s point. 
 

:clap
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The context Edward doesnt show That vet made a wrong turn, tried to enter in a place being protected where he wasn’t supposed to be, we don’t know what happened prior to his being detained, Vet said he was treated fine and had no complaints about the military, and he was immediately passed off to civilian law enforcement for them to decide what is going to happen to vet.  All that context does matter to everyone except Edward and his followers.

as far as the legality goes you haven’t shown the illegality and no one has posted a criminal complaint yet.  It seems everything that happened was in accordance to the law 

 
Archy1221 said:
The context Edward doesnt show That vet made a wrong turn, tried to enter in a place being protected where he wasn’t supposed to be, we don’t know what happened prior to his being detained, Vet said he was treated fine and had no complaints about the military, and he was immediately passed off to civilian law enforcement for them to decide what is going to happen to vet.  All that context does matter to everyone except Edward and his followers.

as far as the legality goes you haven’t shown the illegality and no one has posted a criminal complaint yet.  It seems everything that happened was in accordance to the law 
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Why are Marines detaining US citizens period? Pretty sure the legality of the deployment of said Marines and their detainment of citizens is still up in the air. Many would argue it's in violation of the Posse Comitatus act and on top of that is just largely unprecedented. 

 
Nebfanatic said:
Why are Marines detaining US citizens period? Pretty sure the legality of the deployment of said Marines and their detainment of citizens is still up in the air. Many would argue it's in violation of the Posse Comitatus act and on top of that is just largely unprecedented. 
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I certainly agree with your sentiment.   From what I understand Currently based on the the appeal, it’s lawful for them to be there and secure Federal Property.  To detain individuals IF necessary and immediately pass over to civilian law enforcement.   
 

My post about Edward and using the Reuters article as sourcing was to show Edward is a clown and didn’t understand what he is posting.   Or he understand but just wants engagement even though he knows he’s given incorrect context.   Unprecedented is different from illegal.

And before someone gets all bent out of shape, I don’t think military should be there unless Newsome called up the guard.   It’s okay to have that opinion while calling out people like Edward who are factually wrong and/or narrative posting small pieces of info leaving out the larger context. 

 
Archy1221 said:
The context Edward doesnt show That vet made a wrong turn, tried to enter in a place being protected where he wasn’t supposed to be, we don’t know what happened prior to his being detained, Vet said he was treated fine and had no complaints about the military, and he was immediately passed off to civilian law enforcement for them to decide what is going to happen to vet.  All that context does matter to everyone except Edward and his followers.

as far as the legality goes you haven’t shown the illegality and no one has posted a criminal complaint yet.  It seems everything that happened was in accordance to the law 
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So, yep. Confirmed that marines detained an American citizen, which is against the law.

Oh gee, a vet that just simply made a wrong turn. That makes it so much better. 

Thanks again. 

 
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