The Solich Curse

MichiganDad3 said:
Guy Chamberlin said:
With all this talk about Iowa State 2009, we may be forgetting Texas 2010, featuring at least two perfectly drawn up and executed touchdown plays where the receiver dropped the ball, one of them being the normally heroic Rex Burkhead. There were at least three other big plays nullified when Martinez hit the receiver right in the hands and the ball simply fell to the ground. There were probably some fumbles and stupid penalties, too, but I keep pushing the details down in my memory, hoping they'll go away.
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And in the extra second CCG game our reliable through the end zone kicker shanks the kickoff out of bounds, followed by a bone headed personal foul, or Texas wouldn't have scored with an extra hour.
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No. No, no, no, no, no. That didn't happen. Just as our totally reliable defense didn't give up two totally uncharacteristic plays in the last minute against Va. Tech the same year.

Those would be tragic freak plays that would force me to reconsider this curse thingy.

Back down you go into the repressed cauldron of bile, memories!

 
HuskerNationNick said:
husker_99 said:
Bo hasn't made progress cause each time Bo took us we started to lose by a bigger margin. It seems that winning the championship continue to eludes Bo. I'm not one of those fans that would get to the championship more times then only to lose it then rather getting there less times and winning it.
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Why are you always negative?

Bo hasn't made any progress being here? Come on dude. I honestly can't take anything you say serious. Getting there is step one. As long as we can get there, we will start winning them.
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I'm not always negative. I know it seems that way. I just don't sugarcoat stuff. Yes Bo has done an excellent job on having consistent winning seasons. But instead of being content with that let's go for a higher goal.

 
Also, Bo hasn't made much progress.

And he's actually regressed on defense, supposedly his strong suit.

And the wheels-falling-off blowouts. Ouch.

After five seasons I think it's fair to observe this without being considered unduly negative.

Bo's a big boy. He knows it's time to earn that salary bump.

 
husker_99 said:
I'm not always negative. I know it seems that way. I just don't sugarcoat stuff. Yes Bo has done an excellent job on having consistent winning seasons. But instead of being content with that let's go for a higher goal.
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Who said anyone was content? Sugarcoat? Sugarcoating isn't saying Bo hasn't made any progress. Thats just being blind to the obvious and wanting something to gripe about. Sorry, not trying to argue, but that is just naive. Bo has one of the most dangerous offenses in the nation, talent wise. Limit the stupid turnovers, we could easily have a top 3 offense. Defense, now has the talent, but lacks the experience. How will that effect us? No one here knows and I mean no one. Higher goal? My goal has always been to win our division, then win the CCG when we get there. I don't think anyone is content with 9-10 win seasons. Us that are more "Okay" with it, are the ones that remember how quickly things can go bad and having a 6-6 season, or a 5-7 season. Bo is also reviving our walk on program and pulling All American Academicans through the roof. I am sorry, I didn't expect to win a NC by now. Making it to a CCG is a step above any of the previous coaches have done after Osborne. Leave the past behind, because its just that... the past.

 
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accountability said:
7-7 to 10-3 to 5-6 to 8-4 to 9-5 to 5-7 to 9/10 wins for 5 straight years. Seems like progress to me. Maybe not much, but progress nonetheless.
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But.... but... but we didn't win a National Title!!! THATS NOT PROGRESS!!!!! /sarcasm

Seriously, how can people be so pissed off or down all the time? Some people make it seem like being a Husker fan is so rough, and they hate being a fan.

 
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I guess I would see it as a curse of some sort if Solich hadn't gone 9-4, 7-7, 10-3 in those years. I think you have to win something and be dominant and then have something weird happen for it to be a curse. If Solich won a title and then got fired or was fired for not winning the title, I could see the curse.

 
StPaulHusker said:
I guess I would see it as a curse of some sort if Solich hadn't gone 9-4, 7-7, 10-3 in those years. I think you have to win something and be dominant and then have something weird happen for it to be a curse. If Solich won a title and then got fired or was fired for not winning the title, I could see the curse.
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But we'll also never know what couldve been with a retaining of Frank-with his new staff, new recruiting direction, and revamped defense.

 
StPaulHusker said:
I guess I would see it as a curse of some sort if Solich hadn't gone 9-4, 7-7, 10-3 in those years. I think you have to win something and be dominant and then have something weird happen for it to be a curse. If Solich won a title and then got fired or was fired for not winning the title, I could see the curse.
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It is a curse because Solich was fired for going 10 and 3, and 10 years later NU has never been as good as 10 and 3. Maybe NU should give the Solich family premium seats for eternity in an attempt to end this curse. Personally, I would like to see Solich and Peedy in a celebrity boxing match. The curse would have to be broken when Frankie knocks out Peedy ;)

 
HuskerNationNick said:
husker_99 said:
I'm not always negative. I know it seems that way. I just don't sugarcoat stuff. Yes Bo has done an excellent job on having consistent winning seasons. But instead of being content with that let's go for a higher goal.
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Who said anyone was content? Sugarcoat? Sugarcoating isn't saying Bo hasn't made any progress. Thats just being blind to the obvious and wanting something to gripe about. Sorry, not trying to argue, but that is just naive. Bo has one of the most dangerous offenses in the nation, talent wise. Limit the stupid turnovers, we could easily have a top 3 offense. Defense, now has the talent, but lacks the experience. How will that effect us? No one here knows and I mean no one. Higher goal? My goal has always been to win our division, then win the CCG when we get there. I don't think anyone is content with 9-10 win seasons. Us that are more "Okay" with it, are the ones that remember how quickly things can go bad and having a 6-6 season, or a 5-7 season. Bo is also reviving our walk on program and pulling All American Academicans through the roof. I am sorry, I didn't expect to win a NC by now. Making it to a CCG is a step above any of the previous coaches have done after Osborne. Leave the past behind, because its just that... the past.
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LOL. Solich took us the National Championship and oh by the way we won a conference championship. Callahan took us to the conference championship game. The only thing Bo has done different is keep the winning percentage higher.

 
husker_99 said:
HuskerNationNick said:
husker_99 said:
I'm not always negative. I know it seems that way. I just don't sugarcoat stuff. Yes Bo has done an excellent job on having consistent winning seasons. But instead of being content with that let's go for a higher goal.
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Who said anyone was content? Sugarcoat? Sugarcoating isn't saying Bo hasn't made any progress. Thats just being blind to the obvious and wanting something to gripe about. Sorry, not trying to argue, but that is just naive. Bo has one of the most dangerous offenses in the nation, talent wise. Limit the stupid turnovers, we could easily have a top 3 offense. Defense, now has the talent, but lacks the experience. How will that effect us? No one here knows and I mean no one. Higher goal? My goal has always been to win our division, then win the CCG when we get there. I don't think anyone is content with 9-10 win seasons. Us that are more "Okay" with it, are the ones that remember how quickly things can go bad and having a 6-6 season, or a 5-7 season. Bo is also reviving our walk on program and pulling All American Academicans through the roof. I am sorry, I didn't expect to win a NC by now. Making it to a CCG is a step above any of the previous coaches have done after Osborne. Leave the past behind, because its just that... the past.
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LOL. Solich took us snuk us into the National Championship and oh by the way we won a conference championship. Callahan took us to the conference championship game. The only thing Bo has done different is keep the winning percentage higher.
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Couldnt help but edit. It's still the biggest asterisk in our program's history. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

As far as only keeping the winning percentage higher-isnt that pretty much the whole objective that leads to everything else?

 
accountability said:
husker_99 said:
HuskerNationNick said:
husker_99 said:
I'm not always negative. I know it seems that way. I just don't sugarcoat stuff. Yes Bo has done an excellent job on having consistent winning seasons. But instead of being content with that let's go for a higher goal.
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Who said anyone was content? Sugarcoat? Sugarcoating isn't saying Bo hasn't made any progress. Thats just being blind to the obvious and wanting something to gripe about. Sorry, not trying to argue, but that is just naive. Bo has one of the most dangerous offenses in the nation, talent wise. Limit the stupid turnovers, we could easily have a top 3 offense. Defense, now has the talent, but lacks the experience. How will that effect us? No one here knows and I mean no one. Higher goal? My goal has always been to win our division, then win the CCG when we get there. I don't think anyone is content with 9-10 win seasons. Us that are more "Okay" with it, are the ones that remember how quickly things can go bad and having a 6-6 season, or a 5-7 season. Bo is also reviving our walk on program and pulling All American Academicans through the roof. I am sorry, I didn't expect to win a NC by now. Making it to a CCG is a step above any of the previous coaches have done after Osborne. Leave the past behind, because its just that... the past.
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LOL. Solich took us snuk us into the National Championship and oh by the way we won a conference championship. Callahan took us to the conference championship game. The only thing Bo has done different is keep the winning percentage higher.
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Couldnt help but edit. It's still the biggest asterisk in our program's history. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

As far as only keeping the winning percentage higher-isnt that pretty much the whole objective that leads to everything else?
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It should but sooner or later you have to build success on having a high winning percentage. Right now we are stuck in the middle. Then the question becomes "Does Bo have what it takes as a coach to move even higher"? There are some coaches who can get to the brink of ultimate success but never finish. I hope Bo isn't one.

 
accountability said:
husker_99 said:
LOL. Solich took us snuk us into the National Championship and oh by the way we won a conference championship. Callahan took us to the conference championship game. The only thing Bo has done different is keep the winning percentage higher.
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Couldnt help but edit. It's still the biggest asterisk in our program's history. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

As far as only keeping the winning percentage higher-isnt that pretty much the whole objective that leads to everything else?
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Thank you very much for editing that for me, so I didn't have to. Solich has only won us a CCG that he can actually say he did because of his coaching. But, husker_99, based upon your words, he still didn't win it, so it doesn't matter either way right?

I mean, seriously... Solich has ONE CCG appearance, which he won out of SIX years. One national title, which I am still astonished on how we made it when we didn't even win our division, and we got curb stomped by Colorado. Bo has 3 CCG appearances, which 2 of them were VERY winnable and were ours, 3rd one was an embarrassment, in 5 years. Sure, Bo didn't win them, but he wasn't given a fully built franchise, like Solich had the luxury of, with a full coaching staff that was TO's.

 
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