Exactly.Call it emotion, call it what you want. I didn't lose respect for Suh until he lied about. Football is an emotional game, but damn don't get on national TV and absolutely lie about it while at the same time bringing the man upstairs into the conversation. I see politics in the future for the boy named Suh.
Why is this still a husker football thread? Should've been moved ages ago.Hopefully, in keeping with precedent, he'll sit out the rest of the regular season.
That's exactly how I felt about it. He was obviously pissed, and although I don't think he fully meant to kick the guy, he did. Lying about what he did is far worse than what he actually did, in my opinion.I watched the play earlier today and what I saw was Suh being tackled by the o-line then held down by the linemans right arm, at which time Suh tried to get up and became pissed that he couldn't and tried to get the olineman to let go (pushing him the only place he could since he was being hugged) and then tripped over the lineman when he got up, stumbled, and out of frustration stomped on the ground, and it just so happened that the guys arm was between his foot and the turf. Was it necessarily malicious? No. Was it a very poor example of maintaining composure? Absolutely. He's being held and tackled every play and unlike college, he can't get through it and that makes him mad. But he's got to be better at controlling himself because when Suh gets angry, people die.
I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Who came on here saying the Packers were completely innocent? Not I said this fan...and for the record being a UW and a GB fan are not the same thing. I know plenty of people that are one and not the other.I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Any fan (especially any Badger fan) that comes on here acting as if the Packers were completely innocent in this situation is either completely naive or they're worse homers than any of the Nebraska fans in this thread. The Packers O-Line was baiting Suh all game long - they even said as much after the game. And point, Packers - they got him to commit the foul, and even got him kicked out of the game for taking the bait - but stop with all this high-and-mighty "That's not the way the game is meant to be played" BS.
No no no. Suh doesn't have piss poor character. He's done many things that have shown his good character. Don't crucify him for how he plays and his excuse.Who came on here saying the Packers were completely innocent? Not I said this fan...and for the record being a UW and a GB fan are not the same thing. I know plenty of people that are one and not the other.I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Any fan (especially any Badger fan) that comes on here acting as if the Packers were completely innocent in this situation is either completely naive or they're worse homers than any of the Nebraska fans in this thread. The Packers O-Line was baiting Suh all game long - they even said as much after the game. And point, Packers - they got him to commit the foul, and even got him kicked out of the game for taking the bait - but stop with all this high-and-mighty "That's not the way the game is meant to be played" BS.
Oh one last thing, the Packers may not have been completely innocent but there wasn't a penalty was there? The Packers are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL, we play some of the cleanest most respectable football around. Suh and Detroit? meh not so much.
Even if Dietrich was holding Suh explain to me how that is an even halfway reasonable response. It isn't, and his post game comment just proves he has piss poor character. Suspend him.
The biggest :facepalm: in this thread is your excessive use of exaggeration. Suh didn't *actually* punch Culter, he didn't *actually* almost rip Delhomme's head off, ect, ect. If you have to resort to exaggeration to get your point across, what does that say about the point you're trying to make?Who came on here saying the Packers were completely innocent? Not I said this fan...and for the record being a UW and a GB fan are not the same thing. I know plenty of people that are one and not the other.I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Any fan (especially any Badger fan) that comes on here acting as if the Packers were completely innocent in this situation is either completely naive or they're worse homers than any of the Nebraska fans in this thread. The Packers O-Line was baiting Suh all game long - they even said as much after the game. And point, Packers - they got him to commit the foul, and even got him kicked out of the game for taking the bait - but stop with all this high-and-mighty "That's not the way the game is meant to be played" BS.
Oh one last thing, the Packers may not have been completely innocent but there wasn't a holding penalty was there? The Packers are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL, we play some of the cleanest and most respectable football around. Suh and Detroit? meh not so much.
Even if Dietrich was holding Suh explain to me how that is an even halfway reasonable response. It isn't, and his post game comment just proves he has piss poor character. Suspend him.
...and "Only looked like he was pusing Dietrich's head" God, so much :facepalm: in this thread.
Agreed. For all the objectivity you're claiming Husker fans lack here, Badger, you're not exactly the picture of objectivity yourself.The biggest :facepalm: in this thread is your excessive use of exaggeration.
I can only judge a man off of what I see. I didn't go to NU, I don't live in Lincoln and I'm not going to spend my time reading up on every kid that plays CFB, maybe he's a great guy but not from what I've seen. Had he done what he did on the field, came out and said "I got frustrated, I snapped and I shouldn't have done it" I'd have much less of a problem with him, I'd still think he played dirty but I wouldn't think he was a dirty as a person...unfortunately he didn't man up, he completely bitched out in that comment. I have very little respect for him now.No no no. Suh doesn't have piss poor character. He's done many things that have shown his good character. Don't crucify him for how he plays and his excuse.Who came on here saying the Packers were completely innocent? Not I said this fan...and for the record being a UW and a GB fan are not the same thing. I know plenty of people that are one and not the other.I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Any fan (especially any Badger fan) that comes on here acting as if the Packers were completely innocent in this situation is either completely naive or they're worse homers than any of the Nebraska fans in this thread. The Packers O-Line was baiting Suh all game long - they even said as much after the game. And point, Packers - they got him to commit the foul, and even got him kicked out of the game for taking the bait - but stop with all this high-and-mighty "That's not the way the game is meant to be played" BS.
Oh one last thing, the Packers may not have been completely innocent but there wasn't a penalty was there? The Packers are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL, we play some of the cleanest most respectable football around. Suh and Detroit? meh not so much.
Even if Dietrich was holding Suh explain to me how that is an even halfway reasonable response. It isn't, and his post game comment just proves he has piss poor character. Suspend him.
I agree with you that he needs to be suspended. I agree with you that his excuse was pretty piss poor. But he is by no means a terrible person because of what he did.
I wonder...if he would've done that to a Vikings player, would you as upset?
Objectivity is subjective. Subjectivity is the only thing you're going to find when discussing a thread about a former Husker player doing something wrong to a team you support.I can only judge a man off of what I see. I didn't go to NU, I don't live in Lincoln and I'm not going to spend my time reading up on every kid that plays CFB, maybe he's a great guy but not from what I've seen. Had he done what he did on the field, came out and said "I got frustrated, I snapped and I shouldn't have done it" I'd have much less of a problem with him, I'd still think he played dirty but I wouldn't think he was a dirty as a person...unfortunately he didn't man up, he completely bitched out in that comment. I have very little respect for him now.No no no. Suh doesn't have piss poor character. He's done many things that have shown his good character. Don't crucify him for how he plays and his excuse.Who came on here saying the Packers were completely innocent? Not I said this fan...and for the record being a UW and a GB fan are not the same thing. I know plenty of people that are one and not the other.I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Any fan (especially any Badger fan) that comes on here acting as if the Packers were completely innocent in this situation is either completely naive or they're worse homers than any of the Nebraska fans in this thread. The Packers O-Line was baiting Suh all game long - they even said as much after the game. And point, Packers - they got him to commit the foul, and even got him kicked out of the game for taking the bait - but stop with all this high-and-mighty "That's not the way the game is meant to be played" BS.
Oh one last thing, the Packers may not have been completely innocent but there wasn't a penalty was there? The Packers are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL, we play some of the cleanest most respectable football around. Suh and Detroit? meh not so much.
Even if Dietrich was holding Suh explain to me how that is an even halfway reasonable response. It isn't, and his post game comment just proves he has piss poor character. Suspend him.
I agree with you that he needs to be suspended. I agree with you that his excuse was pretty piss poor. But he is by no means a terrible person because of what he did.
I wonder...if he would've done that to a Vikings player, would you as upset?
Interesting question about the Vikings. I think I would be just as outraged because its bad for football and just a sh**ty thing to do. Would I argue as much about it on HB? Probably not.
I just want to say I find it interesting how much my posts have stirred people up. I simply described the incident how I saw it, what I thought of Suh and what I thought should happen to him. I wasn't demeaning to anyone or to NU, can't say the same about some HB posters around here. Kind of like the Iowa-Gameday thread, when people flipped sh#t after I kindly pointed out that several games have a claim to the "Game of the Century" moniker. People around here sometimes...I'm telling ya... :facepalm: . Not everything is personal, not everything I say is because I'm a UW-GB homer, sometimes, just sometimes I'd like to talk about Football objectively in a friendly manner. I guess that's too much to ask of some people.
1. I have never claimed objectivity when discussing this issue. In fact, I have openly admitted that my view of this is skewed. Read my posts.Agreed. For all the objectivity you're claiming Husker fans lack here, Badger, you're not exactly the picture of objectivity yourself.The biggest :facepalm: in this thread is your excessive use of exaggeration.
I hate the packers, i hate them with every fiber of my body. I hate them more then my rich, petty inlaws. I loathe Brett Farve for only the fact that he played there. I loathe there stadium and there chest thumping fan base. There the Ohio St of the NFL. But that still doesnt mean what Suh did should at all be remotely ok. You dont violently drive one foot down to get your balance. He was pissed and caught up in the moment. Maybe he was just stomping because he was pissed and he didnt realize his arm was there, fine but just admit it. Admit you made a mistake and your actions will be looked at with alittle less scrutiny then someone throwing a fit.I can only judge a man off of what I see. I didn't go to NU, I don't live in Lincoln and I'm not going to spend my time reading up on every kid that plays CFB, maybe he's a great guy but not from what I've seen. Had he done what he did on the field, came out and said "I got frustrated, I snapped and I shouldn't have done it" I'd have much less of a problem with him, I'd still think he played dirty but I wouldn't think he was a dirty as a person...unfortunately he didn't man up, he completely bitched out in that comment. I have very little respect for him now.No no no. Suh doesn't have piss poor character. He's done many things that have shown his good character. Don't crucify him for how he plays and his excuse.Who came on here saying the Packers were completely innocent? Not I said this fan...and for the record being a UW and a GB fan are not the same thing. I know plenty of people that are one and not the other.I read an article on ESPN I think saying that Dietrich-Smith wasn't letting go of Suh and was in fact pulling him towards the ground. If Suh was trying to get his balance while getting pulled down, it only looked like he was pushing Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground.I don't get where people are seeing Suh "leaning" on Dietrich-Smith. He repeatedly pushed his head into the ground.
Any fan (especially any Badger fan) that comes on here acting as if the Packers were completely innocent in this situation is either completely naive or they're worse homers than any of the Nebraska fans in this thread. The Packers O-Line was baiting Suh all game long - they even said as much after the game. And point, Packers - they got him to commit the foul, and even got him kicked out of the game for taking the bait - but stop with all this high-and-mighty "That's not the way the game is meant to be played" BS.
Oh one last thing, the Packers may not have been completely innocent but there wasn't a penalty was there? The Packers are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL, we play some of the cleanest most respectable football around. Suh and Detroit? meh not so much.
Even if Dietrich was holding Suh explain to me how that is an even halfway reasonable response. It isn't, and his post game comment just proves he has piss poor character. Suspend him.
I agree with you that he needs to be suspended. I agree with you that his excuse was pretty piss poor. But he is by no means a terrible person because of what he did.
I wonder...if he would've done that to a Vikings player, would you as upset?
Interesting question about the Vikings. I think I would be just as outraged because its bad for football and just a sh**ty thing to do. Would I argue as much about it on HB? Probably not.
I just want to say I find it interesting how much my posts have stirred people up. I simply described the incident how I saw it, what I thought of Suh and what I thought should happen to him. I wasn't demeaning to anyone or to NU, can't say the same about some HB posters around here. Kind of like the Iowa-Gameday thread, when people flipped sh#t after I kindly pointed out that several games have a claim to the "Game of the Century" moniker. People around here sometimes...I'm telling ya... :facepalm: . Not everything is personal, not everything I say is because I'm a UW-GB homer, sometimes, just sometimes I'd like to talk about Football objectively in a friendly manner. I guess that's too much to ask of some people.