presidentjlh
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Compare the talent levels. Nebraska got its wins because it outtalented teams. Oregon State got its wins because it outcoached teams.
Now, what happens when you put great talent and great coaching together?
The Tangent Thread, Dec 2014 Edition
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Now, what happens when you put great talent and great coaching together?
whateveritis1224
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Kernal
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2010 Missouri was ranked #7. The last time was in 2001 when Solich's team beat #2 Oklahoma, thirteen years ago.
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teachercd
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Were the talent levels that different? What had each team usually been ranked on Rivals? I have no idea at all, that is why I ask.
FrankWheeler
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Nebraska (4 year recruiting average)
2009 - 29.5
2010 - 23.3
2011 - 23.8
2012 - 22.5
2013 - 19.8
2014 - 22.3
5 year average - 22.3
Oregon St
2009 - 48.5
2010 - 49.3
2011 - 51.5
2012 - 48.3
2013 - 44.5
2014 - 47.0
5 year average - 48.1
2009 - 29.5
2010 - 23.3
2011 - 23.8
2012 - 22.5
2013 - 19.8
2014 - 22.3
5 year average - 22.3
Oregon St
2009 - 48.5
2010 - 49.3
2011 - 51.5
2012 - 48.3
2013 - 44.5
2014 - 47.0
5 year average - 48.1
Stumpy1
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On Rivals since 2011:
NU: 15, 25, 17, 32, 31
OSU: 56, 39, 39, 54, 58
We have had considerably better classes then Oregon State. I would say our talent level is better but their coaching was better.
Ooooh. I hope they carry the momentum from that big win into their bowl game....oh....wait.... 5-7
Ooooh. I hope they carry the momentum from that big win into their bowl game....oh....wait.... 5-7
teachercd
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Thanks! That is a pretty big gap, no doubt.
But I think we also realize that NU needs more than even top 25 classes...they really need around 15 or better.
Danny Bateman
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I'd argue it's very difficult to recruit to a program that is definitely lacking in regional talent and now has the reputation of being an also-ran good team that gets blown out any time they play anyone that's a legitimate top 25 team.
It's a bit of a chicken or egg problem... What comes first, on field success or top recruiting classes?
This year, a top 25 class would be good by me. Recruiting rankings tend to be misleading anyway as they give too much weight to schools with large classes. We've got a small senior class this year, IIRC, so we're a bit hamstrung. I prefer to look at rankings sorted by avg stars per player.
It's a bit of a chicken or egg problem... What comes first, on field success or top recruiting classes?
This year, a top 25 class would be good by me. Recruiting rankings tend to be misleading anyway as they give too much weight to schools with large classes. We've got a small senior class this year, IIRC, so we're a bit hamstrung. I prefer to look at rankings sorted by avg stars per player.
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74Hunter
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So, now it's ok to have a losing season as long as we beat a top 10 team? Is that championship football?
Talk about grasping for straws, holy moly.
Anyhow, OSUs radio color guy was just on S&B, said that the WR &LB coaches are solid. Said that the ST coach sucks and is a bad recruiter. Said Banker isn't too great, said that the OL coach wasn't very good, and probably isn't a good recruiter, either.
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The Dude
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Barney?
agreed, but would replace "great talent" with "good talent". Watching tOSU the other night, they have "great talent" all over the place. They look the part of a top caliber team (not that that always results in W's), but physically, they look a good bit more talented than the Huskers with the eyeball test IMO