The Walking Dead

For me the finale wasn't what I was hoping for, they should have trimmed some fat from the show.  Few 'major' characters I would have liked to have seen gone, none of whom was Carl, but I understand why they killed him (with Chandler wanting to go to college, there wasn't a lot of options for Carl, hands were almost forced to kill him, there was no way to really allow him to do both).  If they use source material and do the Whisperers arc, that will trim some, but I still have no need for Daryl at this point.  It didn't answer my questions about Jadis and the helicopter...I mean Anne and the helicopter.   No Sheryl resolution, which I am hoping she comes back.  I was also hoping for some sort of tease, after the resolution to the war, about Heath and maybe 'finding' him.

There were still things I liked about the finale, I'm happy they kept Negan and are using that source material.   I liked the swerve they did with Eugene.

Bonus was seeing it on the big screen with the much better sound system than at home.   I'll have to rewatch both to see what my 'bonus' footage was, but it was fun sitting with 50+ other fans watching it and interacting during the show.

 
Yeah Carl's death had zilch to do with him wanting to go to college.   He had no intentions of leaving the show and found out midway through season 8 that Gimple made the decision to kill him off.

 
Redux said:
Yeah Carl's death had zilch to do with him wanting to go to college.   He had no intentions of leaving the show and found out midway through season 8 that Gimple made the decision to kill him off.
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My thoughts, Gimple killed him off because Chandler wanted to go to college.   Chandler didn't want to leave the show, he wanted to do both.  Gimple didn't want to have to work around that schedule and created the Carl got bit story arc.

Plus, if they wanted Rick to save Negan, they needed something to get Rick to change from his dark side.  Rick, in some aspects had become worse than Negan, and there needed to be a reason for him to come back.  Using the death of Carl and Negan taunting it, was what they came up with, could have been handled better.

If they do the Whisperer arc, I wonder if Enid would fill the Carl role.

 
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No, Gimple killed him for shock value.  Nothing more.  Chandler Riggs has almost no reason to go to college.  Gimple got "promoted" because of his steering too far from the story.

Carl didn't have to die for Rick to change, that's the bulls#!t reasoning the show runners gave for killing him off.  Carls death was completely outside of the war so it had no impact on it.  And for 8 seasons Ricks main focus was keeping Carl alive.  Carl dies, he shrugs it off and continues the war.  It was all pointless, Gimple is a moron.  Now the story has to be tweaked and the interest level of the show is at an all time low.

 
Hey @Redux are you assuming Lauren's contract has been figured out or have you read that somewhere?   Everything I see is she's still not under contract.   I've seen Gimple say he's 'pretty positive' she's returning, still a big gamble as she looks to be an antagonist in season 9.  I'm not sure where that storyline will go or how long, but I'm not a fan of Maggie acting that way.  With filming a few weeks away, the need to lock her in quick or 'Aunt Viv' her which would be a disaster.

 
This show really has had a run of downright awful show runners. It's a same that AMC is so incredibly stingy; they should have kept Darabont around. 

 
sho said:
Hey @Redux are you assuming Lauren's contract has been figured out or have you read that somewhere?   Everything I see is she's still not under contract.   I've seen Gimple say he's 'pretty positive' she's returning, still a big gamble as she looks to be an antagonist in season 9.  I'm not sure where that storyline will go or how long, but I'm not a fan of Maggie acting that way.  With filming a few weeks away, the need to lock her in quick or 'Aunt Viv' her which would be a disaster.
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She wants more money for playing a lead role, can't blame her. AMC will cave.

 
Redux said:
Well...at least this arc is over with.  What a mess.  Carl died for nothing, literally zero payoff.  Yet so many disposable characters lived through a war.  All the deviation from the source material only to end up right where it would have if they stayed true to the story.  And now we have some weird a$$ game of thrones vibe at the end of the finale.  Every character flip flopped so hard this season it made it impossible to connect with any of them, except maybe Negan.
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I'd 2nd. or 3rd or 4th this.  Since the group united at Alexandria there were too many characters rushing through their mini-stories.  I cannot believe Gimple branded an "all out war" in which there were two casualties (Sasha and Carl) in two seasons.

Cdog923 said:
This show really has had a run of downright awful show runners. It's a same that AMC is so incredibly stingy; they should have kept Darabont around. 
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I'd go back to Mazzazra implementing Darabont's ideas. 

 
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