The weaponized AI propaganda machine

1. Yes I read it, yes it is interesting and makes sense. Yes, I can see it being used for political gain. Scary huh?

2. My initial response was too commandos reply.

3. Even though my response was originally to commando, I stand by my follow up comments to you. This type of profiling is not unique to the Conservative party or Liberal party. Companies have been harvesting the type of data being used in this example for years and believe it or not, you are being programmed to do things without your knowledge, everyday. Your insurance companies, employers, retailers get data from companies such as Acxiom, Epsilon where they give companies analytical data on your everyday life, your uses of social media, your buying habits, your preferred travel and anything else they think has a value to others.

It does not shock me that DT could be linked to uses of this type of analyitical data for his gain, but if he has access to it, so does anyone else with a thick checkbook, and that includes those who have or had a vested interest in the election.

Knapp, I respect you but once again you being smug with me, gets old. Your life experiences don't match up with mine so don't pretend to know what I do or don't know, based a rehearsed set of questions that you formulated through your history here on a message board battles.

Bottom line boys, I obtain my opinions based on my life experiences. I do not need a track to run on and rarely rely on preconceived notions. It's not I who is looking for corroboration to insure I am living life as others would like me too. Right or wrong, the decisions I make are mine!
Your life experiences don't validate your opinion. You are no more right because you spent time inside your skin than I am because I spent time inside mine.Educate yourself, speak from a position of knowledge, or stop complaining when your baseless opinions are skewered.

It is not anyone else's fault that you cannot or do not provide facts to support your beliefs.

All opinions are not equal. Some are qualified, some aren't. The people who have the most respect around here or any other message board, coffee shop, lunch counter or highway diner are the ones who have the ability to support their opinions with facts. That's the great thing about Nebraska culture - we're a bunch of bullshitters. And you can't bullshit a bullshitter.

Where are these paid protesters? What evidence do you have that this is an actual thing?
1. Yes I read it, yes it is interesting and makes sense. Yes, I can see it being used for political gain. Scary huh?

2. My initial response was too commandos reply.

3. Even though my response was originally to commando, I stand by my follow up comments to you. This type of profiling is not unique to the Conservative party or Liberal party. Companies have been harvesting the type of data being used in this example for years and believe it or not, you are being programmed to do things without your knowledge, everyday. Your insurance companies, employers, retailers get data from companies such as Acxiom, Epsilon where they give companies analytical data on your everyday life, your uses of social media, your buying habits, your preferred travel and anything else they think has a value to others.

It does not shock me that DT could be linked to uses of this type of analyitical data for his gain, but if he has access to it, so does anyone else with a thick checkbook, and that includes those who have or had a vested interest in the election.

Knapp, I respect you but once again you being smug with me, gets old. Your life experiences don't match up with mine so don't pretend to know what I do or don't know, based a rehearsed set of questions that you formulated through your history here on a message board battles.

Bottom line boys, I obtain my opinions based on my life experiences. I do not need a track to run on and rarely rely on preconceived notions. It's not I who is looking for corroboration to insure I am living life as others would like me too. Right or wrong, the decisions I make are mine!
Your life experiences don't validate your opinion. You are no more right because you spent time inside your skin than I am because I spent time inside mine.
Educate yourself, speak from a position of knowledge, or stop complaining when your baseless opinions are skewered.

It is not anyone else's fault that you cannot or do not provide facts to support your beliefs.

All opinions are not equal. Some are qualified, some aren't. The people who have the most respect around here or any other message board, coffee shop, lunch counter or highway diner are the ones who have the ability to support their opinions with facts. That's the great thing about Nebraska culture - we're a bunch of bullshitters. And you can't bullshit a bullshitter.

Where are these paid protesters? What evidence do you have that this is an actual thing?
LMAO, me, educate myself (POT/KETTLE).
First, let me state clearly for the record once again, that I did not vote for the man that is in office. I did not believe he was the answer to our nations issues. I also did not vote for HC, who I know was not the answer!

So my allegiance is not to any one person, but the country as a whole.

Paid protesters, funded schemes, disruption of events, chorigraphed outcomes, all wrong, yet very much part of this election and you can try to deflect any posed input, by virtue of your group think and stanch support or hate of Trump. So be it, I cant change you hatred of DT nor do I care to.

Do I have irrefutably (in your minds) evidence that the corruption or wrong doing you say is only on the Trump side, is or has happened on the Dem side or Libral side or DNC. IMO and through my experiences, yes, in your opinion, I am sure you will find fault and once again dismiss anything that presented.

Again, I don't care what you want to believe, its your life, your call, your decison! Just don't sit there and condemn all who don't see life as you do, as being uneducated or ignorant. (POT/KETTLE). I would also like to say that this very attitude, is what caused America, to vote DT in the first place with the so called elite or career students, preaching to the working class or blue collar, that DT was a dumb a$$ and could not and should not win, because the supremely educated liberal views, are the future and DT is just ignorant. Again, did not vote for DT and do not fall in line with all his thinking or plans.

Your right Knapp, there has been no manipulation or attempted manipulation to sway those who were leaning DT, through event disruptions, instigation, protesting which were funded by those you are defending.

You are right Knapp that the Liberal way of life is the only thing that matters, and all of us who see life differently than those who sit on a message board daily for years on end have no reality to base their opinions on.

My opinions are based on my experiences, due to what I have been exposed too, but for you, I searched the net a little just to see what I might be able to share with the group here at HB. Now, I am sure you will come back with BS, this is BS, but, once again, I don't care, believe what you want to believe.

This is not how I based my opinion, but gives you some slighty less incriminating information, than what I based my opinion on.

For those of you who watching at work, NSFW (language). Also, after watching the two shared links, see bottom link that provides additional reporting that provided data that this was not made up BS. <-- I am sure you will say it is BS.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/19/two-democratic-operatives-lose-jobs-after-james-okeefe-sting/?utm_term=.f5fb050227ae

Gals and guys, do as you wish, believe what you want, and carry on with your quest. Those of you who can earn a buck for showing up and peacefully demonstrating or posting a thought process on a message board, go for it!

You dont know what you dont know.

Sincerely,

The uneducated and ignorant majority.

 
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Project Veritas Action Fund (AKA Project Veritas Action) was founded by James O’Keefe to investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud and other misconduct.




James Edward O'Keefe III (born June 28, 1984) is an American conservative political activist.[2][3] He produces secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters, some of which he then edits in order to misrepresent persons as having said things they did not say,[4] with figures and workers in academic, governmental and social service organizations, purporting to show abusive or allegedly illegal behavior by employees and/or representatives of those organizations. He gained national attention for his video recordings of workers at ACORN offices in 2009, his arrest and guilty plea in 2010 for entering the federal office of then-U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) under false pretenses, and the release of videos of conversations with two high-ranking, now former, NPR executives in 2011.
When his videos portraying ACORN workers seemingly aiding a couple in criminal planning hit the 24-hour cable news cycle, the U.S. Congress quickly voted to freeze funds for the non-profit. The national controversy resulted in the non-profit also losing most of its private funding before investigations of the videos concluded no illegal activity occurred. In March 2010, ACORN was close to bankruptcy and had to close or rename most of its offices.[5] Shortly after, the California State Attorney General's Office and the US Government Accountability Office released their related investigative reports. The Attorney General's Office found that O'Keefe had misrepresented the actions of ACORN workers in California and that the workers had not committed illegal actions. A preliminary probe by the GAO found that ACORN had managed its federal funds appropriately.[6][7] One of the fired ACORN workers sued O'Keefe for invasion of privacy; O'Keefe issued an apology and agreed to pay $100,000 in a settlement.

O'Keefe gained support from conservative media and interest groups. In 2009, Andrew Breitbart commissioned him for the option to publish new videos exclusively on BigGovernment.com. In June 2010, O'Keefe formed a 501©(3) organization, Project Veritas, with the stated mission to "investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud and other misconduct."[8]
 
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I would not be surprised at all if that is true about the behind the scene workings of the Clinton campaign.

Sad thing is, the behind the scene workings of the Republican Party is just as disgusting.

Now....as this pertains to the trump campaign, this was a perfect opportunity for trump people to expose these people. Instead, the blooming friggen idiot was seen multiple times instigating violence against protestors at his own rallies.

That is what this idiot doesn't understand. People can see what he does and what he says....especially on Twitter....and then the next day completely denies it.

So....early on protestors were at his rallies....he instigated violence against them....he just made there job really easy.

 
Project Veritas Action Fund (AKA Project Veritas Action) was founded by James O’Keefe to investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud and other misconduct.



James Edward O'Keefe III (born June 28, 1984) is an American conservative political activist.[2][3] He produces secretly recorded undercover audio and video encounters, some of which he then edits in order to misrepresent persons as having said things they did not say,[4] with figures and workers in academic, governmental and social service organizations, purporting to show abusive or allegedly illegal behavior by employees and/or representatives of those organizations. He gained national attention for his video recordings of workers at ACORN offices in 2009, his arrest and guilty plea in 2010 for entering the federal office of then-U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) under false pretenses, and the release of videos of conversations with two high-ranking, now former, NPR executives in 2011.

When his videos portraying ACORN workers seemingly aiding a couple in criminal planning hit the 24-hour cable news cycle, the U.S. Congress quickly voted to freeze funds for the non-profit. The national controversy resulted in the non-profit also losing most of its private funding before investigations of the videos concluded no illegal activity occurred. In March 2010, ACORN was close to bankruptcy and had to close or rename most of its offices.[5] Shortly after, the California State Attorney General's Office and the US Government Accountability Office released their related investigative reports. The Attorney General's Office found that O'Keefe had misrepresented the actions of ACORN workers in California and that the workers had not committed illegal actions. A preliminary probe by the GAO found that ACORN had managed its federal funds appropriately.[6][7] One of the fired ACORN workers sued O'Keefe for invasion of privacy; O'Keefe issued an apology and agreed to pay $100,000 in a settlement.

O'Keefe gained support from conservative media and interest groups. In 2009, Andrew Breitbart commissioned him for the option to publish new videos exclusively on BigGovernment.com. In June 2010, O'Keefe formed a 501©(3) organization, Project Veritas, with the stated mission to "investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud and other misconduct."[8]
Watch the F'ing video. (LISTEN TO THE WORDS AND WHO IS SAYING THEM).

What a deal, defending the non defensible.

Jeezus, I am done. Carry on!

BRB, Yes, that is my point, only point and what I am saying in this thread. Not bashing those who say DT has possibly done things improperly, but so has the other side!

My Only Point I was making!

 
I don't have time or energy to watch 30 minutes of obviously partisan propaganda, sorry.

I do get a chuckle out of you offering this as evidence in a thread about propaganda, though.

 
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Big Data is scary. I think I read an article somewhere about the tracking of your Facebook likes and that with 60 likes, the model would know more about you than your closest family.

Well, it seems Trump's team employed that model to great effectiveness. I think the DNC needs to implement the same method, instead of relying on just demographic level data.

 
I don't have time or energy to watch 30 minutes of any other viewpoints than the one that involves the group think, sorry.

I do get a chuckle out of you offering this as evidence in a thread about propaganda, though.
FTFY:
Chuckle away, Me too!

Propaganda and how it is being used or collected is not one sided.

No worries, you can drive in any lane you desire.

I won't demean you like others do when they refer to those who have different perspectives, by saying that, I love the ignorant or uneducated. I know you are intelligent, and can make up your own mind, you are just choosing to spend your 30 minutes defending your point of view.

But thanks for taking the time and selecting the one point you found to be worth of your time within my post.

 
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This cuts both ways, too. There are reports that O'Keefe offered to pay protestors to incite violence at the inauguration. I mean, it's probably got the same level of support as O'Keefe's own videos, but it's out there.

What O'Keefe does is pretty close to entrapment, IMO.

BRB is right when he says the political sausage making process isn't pretty, though.
Agreed Dudeguyy, again, my point was not to say DT was/is an angle, but that the corruptions and paid or funded BS on the backside goes both ways. Neither party is innocent.
 
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I'm not defending anything in this thread. I have made no affirmative statements of any kind. I'm only dismissing your ridiculous offerings of evidence. I haven't even disagreed with your conclusion. Think what you want about me, and I guess feel good about yourself for saying you won't demean me but implying that I'm a sheep regardless.

I'm choosing to spend my 30 minutes avoiding propaganda. From any side of the political spectrum. You, however, seem to at least be mostly fine with it, since you're leveraging it in an argument.

 
Big Data is scary. I think I read an article somewhere about the tracking of your Facebook likes and that with 60 likes, the model would know more about you than your closest family.

Well, it seems Trump's team employed that model to great effectiveness. I think the DNC needs to implement the same method, instead of relying on just demographic level data.
It'sNotAFakeID;

You and I and everyone else on this board and everywhere else are being probed every minute of the day. They know you habits and when you are awake, what floats your boat, what class you are, what you enjoy eating, your favorite vacation spots, your family tree, if you have pets, what type of pets, what type of pet food you buy, your health, your investment interest, your love of hobbies, what type of vehicles you own, and on and on and on.

This is not new. This is just the peripheral scope of data I am talking about. It goes way deeper. Scary as heck, but one nightmare we created for good purposes, that can be used for bad purposes.

BIG Brother, well he knows and he will help you decide your next meal, car, house, and so on! SURPRISE!!!

 
Did you actually read the whole WaPo article you linked? Because after tossing out the allegations, there are a lot of "yeah, but" statements that explain how much of what is alleged in the videos either isn't factually accurate or isn't the whole clip. It states that quick editing makes some of these statements appear to be other than what they are.

Did you mean to post something that casts doubt on your video evidence?

Certainly I applaud Foval and Creamer being kicked out of politics. Certainly I agree that "both sides" pull shady tactics in campaigns. This isn't a new discovery and it isn't an answer to the allegation in the OP of this thread. It smacks of whataboutism, everyone's favorite new word.

 
I'm not defending anything in this thread. I have made no affirmative statements of any kind. I'm only dismissing your ridiculous offerings of evidence. I haven't even disagreed with your conclusion. Think what you want about me, and I guess feel good about yourself for saying you won't demean me but implying that I'm a sheep regardless.

I'm choosing to spend my 30 minutes avoiding propaganda. From any side of the political spectrum. You, however, seem to at least be mostly fine with it, since you're leveraging it in an argument.
I am not judging you LOMS. You posted your OKeefe portion to provide doubt on the validity of my post. You did not watch to learn if there is truths within those vids (you use the one thing that you can attack, to debunk the whole). You know how people are and read, and people will see you quick response and go on from there. You provide a convenient negative to invalidate my post, then say you don't have time to watch propaganda. Why any comment at all then, if it is all propaganda.

I believe people here are smart enough too make their own conclusions. I think fairly high of you LLOMS, your views on helping people, gods part in evolution, space and much more. I even appreciate your views related to Husker Football.

It don't matter LOMS, my perception often gets challenged and when I supply data to the contrary, data like the vids above, showing words coming out of peoples mouths, saying the things that are being defended by those who are staunch haters of DT, then is is all BS. I am not providing data to defend DT, I am providing data to show corruption lives on both side of the track.

 
So you too did not hear the words coming out of the mouths of those in question in those videos?

OK, its all good. Carry on!

The linked Wash post article was not pointing out those specific vids, (correct me if I am wrong), it was talking about matters he had/has been involved with in the past. But again, those vids were the reason these two were terminated and god knows, that the DNC winning the election as they were, they had no reason to employ such tactics.

Carry on!

 
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